You know...

I've been on this community for quite some time and now I feel like the forum is rejecting me. It used too be that when I post a game... people play it and comment. But now... I can't even post a game because NO one wants to sprite anymore. I see numbers of people viewing my graphics topic but.. no sprites are posted. Now my games are slowing down. I can't even find someone to make a dot.

I know that this is just an argument with no backup but I also notice how great others are feeling when they get their sprites! I feel also enjoyed! So my topics are being ignored but theirs isn't. Any ideas why this is happening? Has it happened to you before?

Please answer these questions.

Ya, I know how you feel. I've got 13 projects going. They are all pretty much done, engine-wise, but just no graphics.

Okay. At least someone understands...

Maybe it's just me because I can't use my comp on the weekdays... ?

No one is spriting for you because you always say, "I have 13 projects going".

PokemonSilverCrystal,
I used to a lot more sprite for more people.
After more and more threads had idiots who didn't post sizes, had ridiculous requests, or "Needed some sprites to start", I stopped. (Hence the Darwin reference in my Sig)
I don't bother wading through crappy requests to find a decent one.

This topic is ridiculous.

If your topics aren't getting replies, the obvious reason is because you're not providing enough detail, or good descriptions. Looking at your last two graphics requests, people are responding.

So maybe you should drop this, "feel sorry for me, and it's the GMC's fault I can't release games" attitude.

Always? That's only the second time I've said that.

And last time it was 11

Well, I was just being curious because I thought it was maybe that the good spriters of this forum left.

Nah. They all probably just moved to the GMCG.

Hm, wonder if you've ever stopped to think about people being busy ? It's the school year, not to mention some people probably already have their own projects going or are working with another team. And personally i would like to think if you have a good engine that people will sprite for you. For instance, i really dont like making sprites for random requests in the graphics forum. If people have a decent engine going, they might get more replies. (And by decent i dont mean a movement engine where you can fire bullets at enemies.)

True. Also, graphics are hard to make if you have no motivation. Maybe that why... I usually don't write the engine untill I have the sprites. I'll try writing the engine.

The forum is rejecting only spam... don't get sorry; there will be better times. There are only 2 possibilities:

• People are busy in this season
• Your requests are too vague

Sorry, but I have to provide a different viewpoint. The Topic Creator's avatar is that of some random japanese animated production; This typically implies an undeserved feeling of superiority, or bad taste, or love for Japan -- that's something that would make people like me exit the topic immediately, and put the user on the Ignore List. And then the username has Pokemon in it... Just saying, but shouldn't you take into consideration that some people have different tastes than you, and having such a combination of avatar/name could put people off due to prejudice?

And how does everyone have in the thousands of posts? Are Administrators changing post values now? Because I want the epic #8293.

13 projects? Your crazy. How do you have that kind of time?

http://gmc.yoyogames.com/index.php?showtopic=449458&hl=
http://gmc.yoyogames.com/index.php?showtopic=450182&hl=

Seems you got plenty of sprites and replies in your two topics you created only this month. You're complaining about a luxury problem, in a public forum, that won't change anything, while you're not even having the problem you're describing, and then using it as an excuse for not releasing your games, while posting exaggerating statements like the forums are rejecting you.

@Alpha Man- Well i'd say it's pretty childish to turn away from a topic just because of someone's avatar/name. (Now if they had a bad reputation along with that name there is a different story)

@Everyone else -
If your really looking for a graphics artist i would suggest PM'ing some that you think are good.(Now i dont mean go around spamming every graphics artist in sight, and keep in mind if your PM'ing someone who does paid requests, most likely he's busy.)

What? You should judge a person based on the content of their posts and maturity, not by their username and avatar. There are lots of users here with silly avatars and usernames who are very mature and respectable people.

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There you are sir, hopefully that will work for your project. All I want is a splashscreen in your game and 4 places in the credits.

Pretty much no homework, so I get about 6 hours every night to do whatever I want.

So basically you want people to sprite for a game that doesnt exist in a place other than your mind? Not going to happen.

So that's why i'm in the process of writing the engine.

Providing yet another viewpoint, most decent graphic providers are busy, now what you expect is for people to sprite an entire game for you, the only game we'd want our name in the credits of is a decent game, and a decent game has variety, and therefore more sprites, and therefore requires more requests, and in the end we end up either spriting very little for your game, you end up with no sprites, or we end up spriting the whole game for you, which wouldnt happen because you are at the same time accepting sprites done by other people, and we wouldnt be officially working for or with you if we were confined to a request thread. find a decent spritist, advertise your game, your game engine and look for a team member, rather than complaining noone is taking notice or posting in your thread, when even if we did, it would take about 1000 replies for you to get anything decent.

I like it when people blame their own inability to finish a game on others.
If no one helps, help yourself. End of story.

I don't think PokemonSilverCrystal really feels that way. Maybe his post just didn't come out right. Anyway... like he said, he's decided to focus more on the game first. I think that's a good idea.

I feel it's best to work on your game components in parallel. Don't worry too much about sprites until you make some progress with programming. Just use temporary "placeholder" graphics.

That way, when you request sprites, you can say confidently that your game is nearing completion. People will be more likely to help you then.

I noticed that when you build a game, two things keep you going:

1. The game works
2. The graphics

So work on making the game work with horrible squares and circles and "five-second sprites drawn in paint" and get the game finished, then request the graphics that you cannot make.

ô_o

Anyway, your public complaint about no attention has gotten yourself some and people make stuff for you so
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Holy cow! 13! That's....Yeah, can't think of a word to describe it lol.

This just about sums it all up. Except I want to add, that isn't it a little ungrateful, to get all those replies&sprites, and then try to make out your being 'rejected', and no one is helping you? I can pull out probably well over 100 topics in that forum, which have had less replies&sprites given. It's a good darn thing, that none of them start a topic every time no one does sprites for them, complaining that they are being rejected.

PLEASE... NO MORE REPLIES... I have enough info. Thanks.

Yeah that is kind of true. I've previously seen lots of topics like this one and it's obviously that the reason of their existence isn't an objective constatation; However, the topic's subject can be an interesting note if not presented in this kind of matter. A statistic of resource creations can be a really cool topic if studied at a decent level

I think the topics in this forum are not really meant for limited information achievments. Don't you?

A better workflow would be to use placeholders while writing your engine anyway. Let people see your gameplay later, it will speak for itself and possibly inspire them to create real art for you.

I think the GMC helps each other out a lot graphics wise compared to other places.

One more thing, you are the creator of your game.. you are the visionary! If you are simply complaining that QUALITY art isn't coming your way, well you are the quality control. You could reduce your wait time for graphics if you just picked up some tutorials and learned to do it yourself. It's your game so don't put the end result in other people's hands. I always thought that was the fun in making games, it forces you to learn continuously.

Wow. Just wow. Why would anyone want to use their precious time to make you free graphics? Do you think the community owes it to you? Learn how to make your own sprites, it's not that hard unless your a whiny lazy punk with an undeserved sense of entitlement.

That was uncalled for. Making sprites is not as easy as it may seem to you.

Maybe i'll be telling my own opinion, but.
Look at my replys at graphics forum. count the games that were not abandoned. It's not even 5%!
When you think about it, you realise that you have wasted your precious time, that could have been used\wasted for anything else.
So, normally, I'll help in case when I already have that material done (remember these numerous topics with games that need a nice loopable sky background?), or I remember topic author, or I see several completed games in authors sig (the more games you finish, the lower are chances to abandon your current project, even while for some people chances change slowly).
After some time, you may be able to detect potentially dead topics, and compare your own topic with them.
Also,
* never ask for huge photorealistic images, noone will do them (these topics are never solved and rarely have over 2 reply's).
* never ask for ANY anime-related spriting (after posting a topic requesting for 64x64 or above naruto sprite, you can just go and kill yourself over nearest wall. these topics are never solved).
* never ask for huge animated character spritesheets. people will never do 20+ frames just for a credit.
* before posting a topic, look at it: would a same topic by other person motivate you to sit down and sprite?
Edit: what am I talking about analyzing:
452457 [-] a lot of requests. not even much people have read it all. but attention: renders can save him.
451754 [-] check it out: he combined nearly all possible mistakes into one topic
452477 [+] he\she asks ony for single images, which are easy to do. request will be solved today-tomorrow.

But that's what the Graphics Forum is for. You shouldn't criticize someone for using it.


There's no reason to rub his nose in a poorly worded post. He got the message, and said he'll work on the programming a bit first.

So take your obnoxious attitude somewhere else.

I seem to get a lot of posts to in my current graphic request. Its on page 3 and its been up about a day. I've actually asked the posters what made them reply and so far the only reply i've gotten is good descriptions.

So maybe your posts aren't detailed enough and/or theres too much animation. Animation puts people who can't animate off especially if its at the start of the topic, (in my opinion).

I've actually posted tiles a hud and small menu in one of your requests but none of them really had a description other than a size, and when it wasn't a square it didn't specify which value was a width and which was a height. So possibly the description is the source of your problems.

For some reason this made me laugh hysterically.

EDIT: @ @Alex@: Your topic was descriptive, spacy and nicely formatted, it looked good to me. You didnt request too many sprites, one person could easily make them all pretty quickly. Also there were logos requested which im a sucker for.

Yup, I realize that. But its pretty poor form to come to the community section of the forum and complain that no one is making you graphics for free. Perhaps you did not comprehend my post, so let me clarify: I am not criticizing him for USING the graphics forum, I'm criticizing him for his belief that it is other peoples obligation to make him graphics.

Some people like to make graphics for others.

Try posting at graphics specific forums like:
http://pixelation.wayofthepixel.net/