Which Game-Maker engineered games have excelled and gone Online as an RPG/MMORPG? I'm curious, haven't seen any, ever. Can you actually make it public with Game Maker?




Discuss.

Well, there are a few popular MMOs made with GM. One of the biggest was Slime Online, which closed down, but blaXun is making a second one, and then there's Goomba Online, which has been in the W.I.P. forum for quite some time now. As for regular RPGs, I'm sure there are some, but I've never actually played any.

Outside of the Game Maker community? None.

Oh, did he mean outside of the GMC? In that case, definitely not. GM isn't the best tool for making an MMO, so that's why you don't see GM MMOs outside of the GMC, because we judge things differently, as we know the limitations of GM. If they were released outside the GMC, people would probably give them harsher reviews because they aren't like WoW or something.

Nah, GM has it's limitations, so that's why GM MMO's would probably get terrible reviews, since you are comparing your GM game to commercial games all around the world. No GM MMO game has ever really been made public.

I'm really confused. I'm making a project and I have really good intentions, I have a pixel artist and a programming partner. I'm intermediate and I'm wondering if when I publish my game, can I play it without Game Maker's client?

I want to know this because well I really like Game Maker and I don't know another language. I don't want to stop now..

Link in description of my gm mmorpg. Not very many people on atm though. Will be soon I can garentee that. Soon as in next year sometime lol.

And for your question, you can embed gm games into a website. yoyogames and gmarcade does do it.

Yes, you'd be able to play GM games without the Game Maker program itself; they were just trying to tell you that none have become extremely successful outside of these forums and yoyogames.com.

Also, RD, don't advertise. Whether or not your game is successful, the OP is looking for MMOs that already exist.

Even though, he used an example and I still thank him for that. THANK YOU VERY MUCH I have faith now!!

didn't mean to advertise just trying to tell him it is possible to make a mmorpg with game maker. I don't really want to advertise my game until it is finished. That way people won't know how bad it is now lol. But yeah dude go ahead and make it in gm, you have nothing to lose and GM is a great engine for making games.

Okay then.

Good luck to both of you.

Actually there are a couple.

You really should try using Google.

There are many GM games that are popular outside the GMC. GM MMORPGs, not so much... GM isn't really the best tool for it. There may be a few that have some fans, I wouldn't want to say there are absolutely none, but I've never personally encountered one outside the GMC.

A game called "Stick Online" lasted for several years, and while most of their audience came from the GMC, I met several players who found it on other sites (onrpg.com for example). Right now the game is down for a third remake, but for $10 you can play the old version. And, before you say to yourself "who would pay $10 to play a GM MMORPG?" I've seen at least 30 players online since, that's $300 right there. Before it went down, it constantly had new players (with 50 players on at a time, most I ever seen was 106), plus I think it had 10,000 accounts registered (maybe it was 20,000, I don't remember).

So, if you're wondering how far a GM MMORPG can go, there's your answer. Though, you really have to know your stuff to get one up and running securely.

And what exactly should I be googling? "Game Maker games that made it to the top".

It was an idiotic question, by somebody who just wants to make a topic in hopes that it gets popular.

"Making it to the top" is a vague method of measuring the success of a game, it is meaningless. But to me, it suggests immense popularity, the best within a given group or category.

As hpapillon stated, there have been some GM games that have had popularity beyond that of the Game Maker community, but to even remotely suggest that any of them have "made it to the top", become the best within their category, is just stupid.

But, you're the guy who is suggesting that there have been some, and google should demonstrate this. So why don't you list a few games that have "made it to the top".

http://www.vertigogaming.net/games
http://www.hanakogames.com/
http://www.silengames.com/
http://www.spelunkyworld.com/

Above are some Game Maker creations that have pushed beyond the Game Maker Community. I have seen them talked about on other non Game Maker related sites. Some of them make a little money from their games. (Not sure how much.)

http://bestgamewallpapers.com/summer-schoolgirls

A while back now, about 3-4 months, I put up my first attempt at making an online game with Realm One Online. It was surprisingly successful considering my lack of graphic skills. It is definitely possible, but online coding is very tricky, and you need to be very knowledgable with GML.

While people claim GM is not the best tool to use to make an MMORPG, and it isn't, you can still make an online game that can attract an audience. I'd actually recommend trying you hand at a GM online game before taking your intents to other languages -- even if you fail, it's great practice. I've had several people outside the GMC join the forums of the new version of ROO, so as long as your game is good enough, of course you can draw players from outside these forums.

Stick Online, of course, was the most popular Game Maker online game, but we're hoping to steal it's place. I actually came late to SO, and paid the $10 to see what the hype was about.

There are a few GM online games online right now, Randy's most notably. Generally the GMC goes from hosting 1-2 online games, to hosting up to 5 at once. These are generally 'server tests' and the games die very quickly.

There's actually a thread for ex-GM online games on the ROO forums in this thread. As you can see the list is pretty long, but most are long gone, or entering their second phase of development where the author refines the client and server engine (as I'm doing with ROO right now).

Anyway, it is 100% possible to make an online game with GM, and it is 100% possible to get outside attention.

-Tv

Probably keywords.


How is the question idiotic?
Sounds to me like he was curious.

*sighs* but judging by a variety of your posts you love to be negative.

I agree, let’s not be negative, we should assume the best. We should focus on finding examples of games that have made it outside the Game Maker Community and enriched the time of general gamers.

Now you're just being idiotic.

You're the guy who must believe some GM games have made it to the top. You're the guy who suggests they're easy to find with Google. But, instead of actually backing up your claims, you just resort to idiocy.

Why did you even bother posting? You know you're not helping GM's reputation of being only attractive to juveniles.

Well, I don't think many GM MMORPGs have made it to the top.
I'm pretty sure GM isn't the best at making MMORPGs, but it is good enough to make an online game that can attract a couple of people.

You see, one of the main reasons most GM MMORPGs don't make it to the top is that it never has enough players online at a time to maintain the players' enjoyment. If you imagine WoW with only 100 players on(which is most likely not going to happen anytime soon), it won't be as fun. Things like advertisements to attract players cost money, and most people don't use advertisements, unless they are some sort of big commercial company.

Someday in the future, GML might push it's limits(but don't say I'm dreaming, because I will probably never make an online game anytime soon), and possibly will result in better online games.

MMORPG’s are hard to get going because they often depend on massive amounts of players to be fun. You could just make an online role playing game, - forget the massive. I have no experience with Game Maker’s online multiplayer functions so I can’t comment on the tools performance in that area.

Take the easy way out.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp...cca7b2e99206b9c

I stopped reading right there, i don't know, but if you ask me, the other guy is right.

I don't think most "GM MMORPGs don't make it to the top" because they have too few players. They die because of the difficulty of coding and the struggles with keeping the game efficient enough to support players. Also, advertising will only draw in players from outside the GMC. You should be focusing on attracting GMC members to play, which can be done by making a quality game!

-Tv

There are more people outside the GMC than in the GMC, so to make a good game, you'll have to extend your range of players, so more people will play at a time.
Have you ever been on a GM MMORPG that only welcomes GMC members and has had more than 100 people at a time? That's what I'm talking about. You can't have much fun in a dead zone of a game.

Why did you, NakedPaulToast, even bother replying actually? You know probably better than me that "make it to the top" is just a saying. You can take it literally, but you can also try to understand what is probably meant by the question. It's fine if you choose to take it literally, but if you go bashing others who don't (and that's what you did), you're just being pedantic. Funnily enough you seem to be the only one getting upset about what some people said, while others just try to give answers. Why is that? I'm sorry to say, but it looks to me as well that you're just trying to find reasons to bash people. If I may advise you: next time try to react on what people mean instead of what they literally say. Not everyone can word their thoughts equally well, I would have expected you to know that


Now back to the question and let's see what GM games became exceptionally popular amongst GM games and whether there are GM online games that achieved that.

If you follow the history of my responses, then you will find that I did respond addressing only my opinion towards the topic as asked, without any further commentary regarding appropriateness. In fact this is what I said, and only what I said.



I was content, with my response, that I believe that no GM games have "Made it to the top", using what I believe to be a common use of the expression, "Made it to the top". And yes, I am fully aware that it is an expression. There was no bashing, or even derogatory suggestion in my words or tone.

None.




You seem to take exception to my second response, but make no mention of what I was actually responding to. Even though I quoted it.

The history of the thread, and it's all still there for you to follow, is evidence enough that I was looking to bash people completely unsolicited.

Go back, take a look.

If any response is deserving of being accused of created unsolicited reasons for bashing, then it was the response to mine.



Unless of course you consider, that response to mine considerate and appropriate. Surely, you don't?



One might ask you or Frederick the same question? But you didn't. Why is that?


Now back on topic. I do think this topic is silly. It really is nothing more than yet another "What is the most popular (online) GM game topic. Historically, unless very well disguised, as this one is; they get closed.

I honesty believe, that according to both the literal and figurative definition of "Made it to the top", that no games qualify.

I also believe that should somebody disagree with my stating that no games qualify, they should be in a position to state which ones do. If they are not able to list any, then they really aren't in a position to disagree. Now are they? If they aren't willing or able to substantiate their opinion, then they definitely should not be derogatively stating, others should be using google.

** EDIT **
Reflecting upon Erik's public response and personal correspondence, one of the things he correctly pointed out, was my overly harsh response to the original poster. I shouldn't have let the philosophical differences between myself and Frederick spill over to the original topic starter. My apologies.

A game doesn't have to be an RPG/MMORPG to 'make it to the top'.

I was going to say Spelunky... It was in PC Gamer!!

No, it doesn't, but that's what the OP is interested in.

Actually, i think it was the sheer ignorance in the statement "probably keywords LOLOLOLOL", it's like responding to somebody who just asked "google it".

I mean, it's not like the rest of your post wasn't ignorant, or idiotic as paul said, just saying y'no?

Isn't Iji one of the top game maker games?

Aaaaaaaaand? The only place I've ever seen it mentioned was in the GMC...

Google iji. Anyway I think what the OP means that has an online game been successful. Yes some have. A lot haven't, but there's no reason, if you don't put a lot of work, time and effort in why it won't get popular. (Actually there are a few reasons, but most GM MMO, etc. don't make it far because of lack of effort and time.)

You obviously don't get out much.

And... Game Maker Games, Game Maker Station, 64 Digits, and YoYoGames, right?

But does that really make it one of the top?

It has been featured all over the internet and in proper magazines.

Magazines too? Wow. I guess it is pretty popular!

I heard that one of the Karoshi games was on tv, too.
But just because a game is shown on tv, or featured in a magazine, doesn't mean it's 'made it to the top'.

I would certainly call them successful games, however...

There's a lot of things that would hold a game back from becoming 'up there'.

Like how well it is put together(Graphics, Game-play, Addictiveness *HUGE factor*), which affects how much the player enjoyed the experience, which affects the popularity of the game, which affects how attractive the game is going to be seen as by 'da people'.


I agree with whoever ^up there^ said that we here in the GMC would see the game as good, because we understand all the difficulties and issues that it takes to make that game.


When someone goes online to, lets say, 'Runescape'(the only MMO i can think of that *I* have played), how much they like the game is based on cold, hard addictiveness and enjoyment. They would not be taking into account the work and time it takes to develop such a game.

And because they aren't taking this factor into account, they are purely enjoying the game.



If you can make your game so good that people *here* see it as awesome and amazing... it still mightn't be seen like that to the untrained eye.

If you can make your game so good that people *out there* see it as awesome and amazing... i salute you .




I dunno why I bothered writing all that up

I just put it in for the sake of the discussion.
Lol, it might not even be the right way to see it.


Heh.

- Aemyn

I've never heard of iji before. I guess it isn't that popular.

Not to mention it's own Wikipedia page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iji

I must say I haven't heard of it outside the GMC, but it was a cage match winner for a while. I suggest you go and download it, it's one of my favourite GM games.

Iji was on /v/'s list of recommended freeware games, I believe thats the top.