funcravers
Oct 10 2007, 12:34 AM
I'm a Junior at CHS in washington. I am taking a computer class and one thing that we happen to be doing is "Advanced Game Maker." Now I have had 5+ years of expierience and my class takes like 5 minutes to load 5-6 sprites. They have trouble creating objects and don't understand what to do with D&D. It's really frustrating when I try to go ahead and do one extra step and the teacher (who has syncronize, a program that teachers use to view everyone in the network's computer) I get yelled at. Have any of you had an experience like this? It sucks.
PwnageMage
Oct 10 2007, 12:39 AM
Man, that sucks. I haven't had that experience before but "advanced Game Maker"? Sounds more like "Beginner Game Maker" to me. Maybe explain to the teacher how awesome you are at GM.
name
Oct 10 2007, 12:39 AM
No, but I feel sorry for you.
StapleGun
Oct 10 2007, 12:40 AM
Have you ever had 13 guys ask you how to make a random number in Visual Basic 6.0 on computers that try to run Microsoft Installer 3.0 everytime you click the run button?
... Yea -- I've had an experience like this.
BrandMan211
Oct 10 2007, 12:45 AM
Wow, your teacher needs to get fired.
funcravers
Oct 10 2007, 01:29 AM
Well, nobody else knows GM so... I told him I had taken classes at OSU before (its a special weekend thing) and he doesn't care.
StapleGun
Oct 10 2007, 01:33 AM
QUOTE (funcravers @ Oct 10 2007, 11:29 AM)
Well, nobody else knows GM so... I told him I had taken classes at OSU before (its a special weekend thing) and he doesn't care.
Teachers get very indignant when a student knows more than them in a certain area. Especially IT teacher's. My teacher took 75% off my major work because it was written in VB 2005 instead of VB 06, even though the syntax was almost identical. I told her I don't have VB 6 at home and they don't sell it anymore, on account of the fact that it is almost a decade out of date. I decided then to make use of the wonderful security loop holes the old VB 6 had to offer at that stage ...
Alex
Oct 10 2007, 01:35 AM
Tell him to get stuffed. If the class is behind thats not your problem.
I'd say, get to the same level as everyone else, and in every spare minute you got, play around and make your own game (minimized).
jakman4242
Oct 10 2007, 01:36 AM
QUOTE (funcravers @ Oct 10 2007, 02:29 AM)
Well, nobody else knows GM so... I told him I had taken classes at OSU before (its a special weekend thing) and he doesn't care.
Go to the president and ask to replace that crappy teacher. Since you can obviously do better. No, try and show the teacher what you can do. And offer to help her/him with lessons(making them, not teaching. Oh wow, that'd be... bad?) and in return he/her would let you go ahead. It might work. But i don't know your teacher. So i have no idea. I've kinda had this experience before. It's incredibly annoying.
Especially when you're in a web design class and your teacher is explaining how to change the font color in microsoft word... Yeah, been there.
Zezuken
Oct 10 2007, 01:36 AM
'Advanced Game Maker'? shouldn't there be a 'Beginners Game Maker' first?, thats like skipping pre algebra and algebra and going straight to Algebra 2.....
Seems completely stupid though..
edit: I wished my school taught how to use Game Maker, but it would most likely just be the same problem, if anything mark should release a tutorial like set for teachers.
Alex
Oct 10 2007, 01:39 AM
I got an idea. Get a photo of him, and make a game during class where you shoot his face and it bleeds.
See what he says about that
funcravers
Oct 10 2007, 01:40 AM
Beginners GM was in 8th grade... We made a game called super gouls. A goust flies around shooting fireballs while you move up and down to dodge them.
jakman4242
Oct 10 2007, 01:40 AM
QUOTE (Alex @ Oct 10 2007, 02:39 AM)
I got an idea. Get a photo of him, and make a game during class where you shoot his face and it bleeds.
See what he says about that

Detention?
Zezuken
Oct 10 2007, 01:41 AM
ya but he would have to make it at home because of his teacher, make it like the ultimate pwnage and make the teacher like 'z0mfg h4x0rz' all over it.
Shadeplay23
Oct 10 2007, 01:51 AM
QUOTE (jakman4242)
C'mon, only detention? Let's get expelled.
rayquazadude
Oct 10 2007, 02:02 AM
QUOTE (Alex @ Oct 9 2007, 06:39 PM)
I got an idea. Get a photo of him, and make a game during class where you shoot his face and it bleeds.
See what he says about that

Excuse me, I just got a note from the counselor's office telling you to see them right away. Something about violent and antisocial tendencies.
Try using GML, see if he gets angry when he doesn't know what you're doing.
Zezuken
Oct 10 2007, 02:06 AM
Luckily that doesn't happen in my Computer Applications I class (we use word 2003 and crap) then again we just do lessons and do steps, and im like always the first to get done with the lesson So i have several days to do nothing (we can play flash games but most of the websites are blocked, hell even yyg and this forum is blocked even normal invisionfree forums).
funcravers
Oct 10 2007, 02:14 AM
Yeah, we did dreamweaver and word already. Its bull. We are doing Bryce next.
Zezuken
Oct 10 2007, 02:19 AM
Dangit, my school only has:
Computer Applications I
Computer Applications II
Computer Networking I (taking computers apart and together)
Computer Networking II
Web Design (HTML) I
Web Design II (not sure how possible it is to get in only selected few get in I believe...)
and the Applications isn't such good programs, mainly on doing office like crap
kamaga
Oct 10 2007, 02:21 AM
QUOTE (rayquazadude @ Oct 10 2007, 02:02 AM)
QUOTE (Alex @ Oct 9 2007, 06:39 PM)
I got an idea. Get a photo of him, and make a game during class where you shoot his face and it bleeds.
See what he says about that

Excuse me, I just got a note from the counselor's office telling you to see them right away. Something about violent and antisocial tendencies.
Try using GML, see if he gets angry when he doesn't know what you're doing.
Heh
CODE
while(fps!=5){show_message('No');}
"I don't know what you're doing! Detention!"
The only programming class my school has is "Computer Programming", but it's really "C++ for idiots". At the end of the year, you know how to do for loops! Luckily for me though, I got finished with everything not even half way through. Instead of my teacher complaining, she gave me personalized (and slightly difficult) assignments.
funcravers
Oct 10 2007, 02:28 AM
Yeah my teacher is obsessed with geocaching and wastes half the period showing us what he found yesterday. (
GEOCACHING)
Zezuken
Oct 10 2007, 02:30 AM
apparently, maybe if you can convince them to make you the teacher....if only if only..
drazzke
Oct 10 2007, 02:33 AM
Your lucky to be even doing that... I have to "learn" how to use Microsotf Word and Excel... I get finished 30 minutes into class...
But yeah, that would suck pretty bad... Maybe try showing your computer teacher a Game that you have made? To he understands how far ahead you are?
pacomytaco
Oct 10 2007, 03:03 AM
QUOTE (funcravers @ Oct 10 2007, 12:34 AM)
I'm a Junior at CHS in washington. I am taking a computer class and one thing that we happen to be doing is "Advanced Game Maker." Now I have had 5+ years of expierience and my class takes like 5 minutes to load 5-6 sprites. They have trouble creating objects and don't understand what to do with D&D. It's really frustrating when I try to go ahead and do one extra step and the teacher (who has syncronize, a program that teachers use to view everyone in the network's computer) I get yelled at. Have any of you had an experience like this? It sucks.
omg me too but every one in my class creates games that really suck andi show my teacher my games and they think im a god its really funny because you guys give me like 7/10 on my games here lol
edit: wow wow wow are you in college? because i am in 10th MAN and im already learning this in school but we are only spending half a week in this
and my teacher thinks gml is java lol
Zezuken
Oct 10 2007, 03:05 AM
yup simply amazing how people can think such a simple game can be divine...
tikki
Oct 10 2007, 03:29 AM
be thankful you actually have game designing crap at your school.
we have 2 comp classes:
comp aps 1: microsoft word, powerpoint
comp aps 2: microsoft word, web design (using MSWORD, which isn't even programming/true web design)
pacomytaco
Oct 10 2007, 04:01 AM
wow we have like multimedia ,java 1,2 ,computer science, desktop publishing plus what tikki's school has
gmXpert2000
Oct 10 2007, 04:01 AM
That's kind of how it was for me in Visual Basic Class...I had already had so much experience with Game Maker, DarkBASIC, and even C++ that when I got to that I was quite surprised. I had to help everyone else create their programs because I was always done first. And when I tried to go farther than everyone else because I was bored, my teacher turned off my computer completely.
However, I don't believe this thread is technically legal, as it doesn't deal specifically with GM. I could be wrong, though.
pacomytaco
Oct 10 2007, 04:03 AM
QUOTE (gmXpert2000 @ Oct 10 2007, 04:01 AM)
That's kind of how it was for me in Visual Basic Class...I had already had so much experience with Game Maker, DarkBASIC, and even C++ that when I got to that I was quite surprised. I had to help everyone else create their programs because I was always done first. And when I tried to go farther than everyone else because I was bored, my teacher turned off my computer completely.
However, I don't believe this thread is technically legal, as it doesn't deal specifically with GM. I could be wrong, though.
ahhh i wish we had visual basic so i could become supreme genius in that class to
Konochi
Oct 10 2007, 04:06 AM
QUOTE (funcravers @ Oct 9 2007, 04:34 PM)
I'm a Junior at CHS in washington. I am taking a computer class and one thing that we happen to be doing is "Advanced Game Maker." Now I have had 5+ years of expierience and my class takes like 5 minutes to load 5-6 sprites. They have trouble creating objects and don't understand what to do with D&D. It's really frustrating when I try to go ahead and do one extra step and the teacher (who has syncronize, a program that teachers use to view everyone in the network's computer) I get yelled at. Have any of you had an experience like this? It sucks.
show her your completed game's editable and maybe you might pass the class
RhysAndrews
Oct 10 2007, 04:07 AM
It's worse when your teacher tries to convince you that a 10 year old program he bought back when Windows 95 was the standard is still used commonly today as an industry standard, when it is an overly simplified version of GM, to say the least.
Luckily, though, my teacher is respective towards people who are more experienced in various areas than he is. He took a web design course but asks me questions about markup languages and web design.
aeharding
Oct 10 2007, 04:14 AM
Unlucky. My computer teacher lets us go at our own pace. I'd recommend talking in private to him. Teachers understand that way.
funcravers
Oct 10 2007, 04:39 AM
All my teacher understands how to do is create "evil clutches" form the GM aprentice book. Only because he momorized it. No i'm in high school. CHS = Camas High School
My teacher knows HTML... sorta. He takes the easy way out with everything and makes us learn the hard stuff. Anyone living in NW U.S.A. watch out for Pat Kutkey.
name
Oct 10 2007, 04:50 AM
QUOTE (Zezuken @ Oct 9 2007, 08:05 PM)
yup simply amazing how people can think such a simple game can be divine...
How true....
I made a "16 puzzle" game(you know the one..) with only one script.
CODE
if place_free(x+32,y)
{
x+=32;
sound_play( TileGame_Click )
exit
}
if place_free(x-32,y)
{
x-=32;
sound_play( TileGame_Click )
exit
}
if place_free(x,y+32)
{
y+=32;
sound_play( TileGame_Click )
exit
}
if place_free(x,y-32)
{
y-=32;
sound_play( TileGame_Click )
exit
}
I showed it to my Tech teacher and he was amazed.
He dosent even know what GML is, and Game Maker is one of the subjects...
freaked
Oct 10 2007, 09:15 AM
First of all, your teacher is stupid. Fails to recognize your talent.
I have experienced the same problem in class while doing QBasic.
We were supposed to make a program that replied differently based on what names a user entered. While everyone else used like 10 If/Then statements, i kept my code clean and used Select / Case.
Believe me, my teacher gave me lower marks cause I didn't follow the the teachers suggestion to use IF/THEN.
Smarty
Oct 10 2007, 09:24 AM
Just because you're ahead of the class doesn't make a teacher stupid. He has got to teach a group, not just you. Too bad if the group is slower. If he can't give you a different assignment, and you can't be given dispensation from the course, then just deal with it.
I don't see any point in complaining about teachers here.
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