Game_boy
Sep 29 2007, 05:06 PM
Some Game Maker 6 games work on Ubuntu Feisty GNU/Linux under Wine 0.9.45
"This is the first time Game Maker 6 has worked with any version of Wine, or at least the first time a workaround to the crashing has been found.
I have tested every version over the past year, and there has been slow progress through refusing to install, crashing on GUI opening, hanging on game load, unexpected error and now this."
After Game Maker 5 working a few months ago, Game Maker 6 now works and it's only the copy protection that stops Game Maker 7 working too because they're basically the same.
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The example Asteroids works for me.
Instructions:
1. Download and install Game Maker 6 to its default directory using Wine.
2. Open up the terminal and paste:
cd "/home/****/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Game_Maker6"
where **** is your username.
and press Enter.
3. Paste into the terminal:
WINEDLLOVERRIDES="d3dx8=n" wine Game_Maker.exe
and press Enter. Game Maker 6 will launch. Open up asteroids.gm6 and run it. It should work.
You can play the other examples, such as 1945, by first checking the preference of "Start in Full-Screen Mode" before launching the game.
blue123
Sep 29 2007, 06:26 PM
It's good that people have managed to get GM working on Linux. Pity about the copy protection/softwrap/whatever...
Tera4d
Sep 29 2007, 06:46 PM
Ahh good to know because im an proud ubuntu user

Ill try it later when i have time thanks for sharing the news.
NakedPaulToast
Sep 29 2007, 06:54 PM
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Ill try it later when i have time thanks for sharing the news.
This isn't news. Posts similar to this have been written in the past.
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Some Game Maker 6 games work on Ubuntu Feisty GNU/Linux under Wine 0.9.45
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You can play the other examples, such as 1945, by first checking the preference of "Start in Full-Screen Mode" before launching the game.
The key is "SOME" games and "Full-screen Mode". As you continue using GM and games under Wine you will see other incompatibilities, such as file saving and file reading\writing.
It does not work consistantly nor reliably.
Tera4d
Sep 29 2007, 07:02 PM
Well it IS news for me because firstly i was never able to even open the GUI system itself.
EDIT
That was probably because i was running one of the first versions from wine.
Game_boy
Sep 30 2007, 09:17 AM
No, this is the first time Game Maker 6 has worked with any version of Wine, or at least the first time a workaround to the crashing has been found.
I have tested every version over the past year, and there has been slow progress through refusing to install, crashing on GUI opening, hanging on game load, unexpected error and now this.
Phazon yoshi
Sep 30 2007, 09:53 AM
Nice, but one thing has always struck me as strange.
Why not partition your drive, and install linux and windows? (And mac OS, if you can)
Daniel-Dane
Sep 30 2007, 10:20 AM
QUOTE (Phazon yoshi @ Sep 30 2007, 11:53 AM)
Nice, but one thing has always struck me as strange.
Why not partition your drive, and install linux and windows? (And mac OS, if you can)
I think the question is
why do that?
Game_boy
Sep 30 2007, 10:23 AM
QUOTE (Phazon yoshi @ Sep 30 2007, 09:53 AM)
Nice, but one thing has always struck me as strange.
Why not partition your drive, and install linux and windows? (And mac OS, if you can)
I have installed Vista on the other partition, purely for Game Maker 7, and use it as little as possible. I am a free software advocate and so I believe Microsoft's monopoly on the OS market needs to end.
Plus you can't beat
Compiz.
Hach-Que
Oct 1 2007, 08:51 AM
Well I don't have Windows even installed on my machine anymore, I like C++ better than GM anyway... and you could always just wait for Roket3D..
openSUSE 10.2 Test Results
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Games don't run on wine version 0.9.24. They may work on later versions.
P.S. Beryl used to contain all those "cool" effects, while Compiz was the base, until they merged recently to form Compiz Fusion. You can also see where Microsoft got their 3D effects from..
P.S.S. I know the Flip 3D effect for tabbing between windows was in Windows first (it wasn't an offical plugin as far as I know of).. But I think that's getting off-topic.
Schreib
Oct 1 2007, 02:46 PM
WINE Is Not an Emulator.
Phazon yoshi
Oct 1 2007, 03:29 PM
Well done.
And that video alone has got me seriously thinking about linux...
What would you ssay the minimum specs would be to run windows programs?
Game_boy
Oct 1 2007, 04:02 PM
It's not an emulator, so you actually need a less powerful computer than Windows equivalent because it's more efficient.
However not all programs work. What were you thinking of; I can find you free Linux replacements or tell you their Wine status.
Schreib
Oct 1 2007, 04:11 PM
WINE stands for what I said. Wine stands for "Wine is not an emulator". It's an abbreviation which contains the abbeviation itself, another one is PHP which stands for "PHP Hypertext Processor".
Phazon yoshi
Oct 1 2007, 04:19 PM
Yes, I knew that, for some reason.
Is it as good as an emulator?
Daniel-Dane
Oct 1 2007, 05:16 PM
I think this is supposed to be better...
Phazon yoshi
Oct 1 2007, 05:23 PM
From what I see, it uses near no extra overhead, but that could come at a functionality cost.
Game_boy
Oct 1 2007, 05:45 PM
Basically, yes. It's faster than Windows (practically zero overhead on Linux) but comes with a kind of lottery thing on what works. That said, there are very few programs that don't work at all, with some of the perfectly-working ones including World of Warcraft and GTA Vice City.
erthgy
Oct 1 2007, 09:16 PM
This is cool for linux users, but people like me (windows users) sit here and laugh because our system supports gm and a bunch of other files your OS doesn't
Hach-Que
Oct 2 2007, 03:01 AM
QUOTE (erthgy @ Oct 2 2007, 07:16 AM)
This is cool for linux users, but people like me (windows users) sit here and laugh because our system supports gm and a bunch of other files your OS doesn't

QUOTE (http://appdb.winehq.com)
There are 7595 applications currently in the database with EVE Online 3.22.x being the top voted application.
And guess what? World of warcraft is even marked as a "Gold" level application.. You also have to remember that there are heaps of native-linux applications which support most filetypes like Adobe Photoshop's psd format, the entire Microsoft Office range of format, and so forth..
CODE
Platinum - Applications that install and run out of the box (111 Apps)
Gold - Applications that work flawlessly with some DLL overrides or other settings, crack etc. (238 Apps)
Silver - Applications that work excellently for 'normal use' (228 Apps)
Bronze - Applications that work but have some issues, even for 'normal use' (152 Apps)
Garbage - Applications that don't work as intended, there should be at least one bug report if an app gets this rating (200 Apps)
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Yes, I knew that, for some reason.
Is it as good as an emulator?
WINE basically implements the windows DLL's to support linux functions like opening files, getting directory listings, and alot of other more complex stuff like GUI... That is why WINE Is Not an Emulator. It's also alot faster than an emulator (emulators are normally slower than the original, where WINE has actually been proven to run faster in some cases than Windows itself).
erthgy
Oct 4 2007, 08:55 PM
QUOTE (Hach-Que @ Oct 1 2007, 10:01 PM)
QUOTE (erthgy @ Oct 2 2007, 07:16 AM)
This is cool for linux users, but people like me (windows users) sit here and laugh because our system supports gm and a bunch of other files your OS doesn't

QUOTE (http://appdb.winehq.com)
There are 7595 applications currently in the database with EVE Online 3.22.x being the top voted application.
And guess what? World of warcraft is even marked as a "Gold" level application.. You also have to remember that there are heaps of native-linux applications which support most filetypes like Adobe Photoshop's psd format, the entire Microsoft Office range of format, and so forth..
CODE
Platinum - Applications that install and run out of the box (111 Apps)
Gold - Applications that work flawlessly with some DLL overrides or other settings, crack etc. (238 Apps)
Silver - Applications that work excellently for 'normal use' (228 Apps)
Bronze - Applications that work but have some issues, even for 'normal use' (152 Apps)
Garbage - Applications that don't work as intended, there should be at least one bug report if an app gets this rating (200 Apps)
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Yes, I knew that, for some reason.
Is it as good as an emulator?
WINE basically implements the windows DLL's to support linux functions like opening files, getting directory listings, and alot of other more complex stuff like GUI... That is why WINE Is Not an Emulator. It's also alot faster than an emulator (emulators are normally slower than the original, where WINE has actually been proven to run faster in some cases than Windows itself).
sry..
I got linux confused with a mac..
Schreib
Oct 4 2007, 08:59 PM
I wonder if it is really possible to port this over to all distributions of Linux. My friend runs Gentoo which is heavily console-based and has a relatively large lack of GUI, so is it possible to connect Wine in such a way that Gentoo can run Game Maker?
KristjanS
Oct 9 2007, 05:17 AM
QUOTE (Schreib @ Oct 4 2007, 08:59 PM)
I wonder if it is really possible to port this over to all distributions of Linux. My friend runs Gentoo which is heavily console-based and has a relatively large lack of GUI, so is it possible to connect Wine in such a way that Gentoo can run Game Maker?
You must have some kind of misconception about Linux distributions. If it works on Ubuntu, it
will work on Gentoo also, provided the same applications are installed.
Hach-Que
Oct 9 2007, 06:58 AM
QUOTE (Schreib @ Oct 5 2007, 06:59 AM)
I wonder if it is really possible to port this over to all distributions of Linux. My friend runs Gentoo which is heavily console-based and has a relatively large lack of GUI, so is it possible to connect Wine in such a way that Gentoo can run Game Maker?
All he needs to do is click the KDE or GNOME package selection in his package manager (but Gentoo is normally more compile-everything sort of OS, so whether or not he even has a package manager is a different story..)
bendodge
Oct 28 2007, 07:10 PM
I just thought I would add that if you open wineconfig you can add d3dx8 to the Libraries override list, so you don't always have to type WINEDLLOVERRIDES when you want to run a GM game.
Thank you very much Game_boy for telling us about this.
Arcalyth
Oct 28 2007, 11:49 PM
Has anyone tried running GM using Wine with Windows-native DLLs?
HopelessComposer
Oct 29 2007, 12:39 AM
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I am a free software advocate and so I believe Microsoft's monopoly on the OS market needs to end.
That's silly. Why should software be free exactly?
Hey, let's make food free too. And cars. And housing. Evil *******s, trying to make money off of the things they took years to create.
Let's just get rid of the world economy, and just make everything free. That should work!
dabski
Nov 6 2007, 04:08 AM
QUOTE (Game_boy @ Oct 1 2007, 04:02 PM)
It's not an emulator, so you actually need a less powerful computer than Windows equivalent because it's more efficient.
You could not be further from the truth Game_boy 0 overhead my ass. Yes wine is not an emulator and yes SOME things run faster in wine, the synthetic benchmarks in general though the magority of games do not:
BenchMark-0.9.5 - The Official Wine Wikihttp://wiki.winehq.org/BenchMark-0.9.5
That being said you would need a faster CPU to run the games at the same FPS that windows XP achieves with a slower CPU. I doubt that this will be changing any time soon since the devs have said that they are more concerned with compatibility than performance at the moment. When they eventually do focus on performance, the overhead will still be their since WINE is a extra layer inbetween the game and the OS, they can try to make it more efficient though the best you could probably hope for is a 1:1 ratio in most games and that depends individually on the game.
Hach-Que
Nov 7 2007, 09:08 AM
QUOTE (HopelessComposer @ Oct 29 2007, 10:39 AM)
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I am a free software advocate and so I believe Microsoft's monopoly on the OS market needs to end.
That's silly. Why should software be free exactly?
Hey, let's make food free too. And cars. And housing. Evil *******s, trying to make money off of the things they took years to create.
Let's just get rid of the world economy, and just make everything free. That should work!
Where exactly did he say that all software should be free? True, open source software is much better than proprietory software, but all he said was that Microsoft's monopoly needs to end.
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I wonder if it is really possible to port this over to all distributions of Linux. My friend runs Gentoo which is heavily console-based and has a relatively large lack of GUI, so is it possible to connect Wine in such a way that Gentoo can run Game Maker?
Unfortunatly, no. I don't know whether WINE would be able to run a command-line only program outside of X, but as for graphical programs such as Game Maker, an X server is a requirement.
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