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Daniel-Dane
It depends on a lot of things, when downloading, a lot of variables play in, these are:
1. Your own download speed.
2. The hosts upload speed.
3. The traffic on the web, your ISP/central internet staition, and the hosts ISP.
4. If you have more programs on the computer running.
theprogram00
just tried today and it says 8 mins (much better than 35)
thegreatgaveno@mac.com
I like it a lot. I'm at the first dungeon. So I'm assuming I'm not very far yet. But it's very nice. Very well made.
I will probably beat it eventually. It's kind of annoying that for the most part you have to be south of the npc's to talk to them though tongue.gif. That that big of an issue though.
-Gavin
theprogram00
Right, after playing the game for a long while i can clearly say:

"NICE GAME!"

I like it a lot, i had a bit of trouble with the puzzles in the ice caves. I love the mingames placed around the game. I just got to the bit with the water speeder and then i got stuck in one place and had to quit... sad.gif

Other than that its all worked smoothly, thats the only bug ive found and i loved the lighthouse.

now i wish i knew where a bigger wallet was, i hate not having more than 500...

10/10! biggrin.gif
Tebbo
I like the game but i cant find the "but" (whatever that is...)
And "I want my flask empty." Dont work.
But of what i'v seen so far i give it a 9.5/10 biggrin.gif
MaxAstro
Gah... stuck, and in the worst place: I've gotten BAD END™ and don't know how to get the second ending... sad.gif

I need a better hint for the lower left fossil, I think; I searched the entire second dungeon (twice) and couldn't find it.

Also, the room with the blue sphere (the first boss after you get mines) never activated for me, not sure why. I was able to walk in, flip the switch, and leave without a fight. Did I miss something there?

And a glitch with the hit-the-ball minigame: Pressing enter during the minigame causes the game to be "started over": The timer resets, you lose money, and another ball is spawned... but it doesn't get rid of the first one. This is actually very fun once you get the "minigame upgrade", as you can have ten or so balls at once and get huge scores, especially on medium. smile.gif

I love this game, BTW. I'm just highly addicted to it at the moment, and too driven by the need to get the other ending to write a review. happy.gif¿

Oh, and "I want my flask empty." works for me. ...But I can't find anything else that does... Also, is it intentional that your flask is emptied if you give a wrong answer?

EDIT: And if it's not too spoilery, how do you get into the small building to the left of the main HGA facility?
Srehpog
QUOTE (theprogram00 @ Oct 2 2006, 08:39 PM)
I like it a lot, i had a bit of trouble with the puzzles in the ice caves. I love the mingames placed around the game. I just got to the bit with the water speeder and then i got stuck in one place and had to quit...  sad.gif
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That sounds slightly serious. Could you take a screenshot of where it happened? Even if you can't get it to occur again, I might be able to if I know exactly where and in which room the problem occurred.


QUOTE (Tebbo @ Oct 2 2006, 09:47 PM)
And "I want my flask empty." Dont work.
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So, with a full flask (of either type of Coffee), having the flask in the first place, entering that string does nothing? Are you sure you have the flask and it had something in it?

QUOTE (MaxAstro @ Oct 4 2006, 09:56 PM)
I need a better hint for the lower left fossil, I think; I searched the entire second dungeon (twice) and couldn't find it.
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Right-hand branch of the statue city...

QUOTE (MaxAstro @ Oct 4 2006, 09:56 PM)
Also, the room with the blue sphere (the first boss after you get mines) never activated for me, not sure why.  I was able to walk in, flip the switch, and leave without a fight.  Did I miss something there?
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I can fix that easily, but I'd also rather understand what caused it in the first place. Did you do anything special before going into that room, such as leaving and re-entering the dungeon? Did you significantly advance any progress anywhere else first?

QUOTE (MaxAstro @ Oct 4 2006, 09:56 PM)
And a glitch with the hit-the-ball minigame: Pressing enter during the minigame causes the game to be "started over": The timer resets, you lose money, and another ball is spawned... but it doesn't get rid of the first one.  This is actually very fun once you get the "minigame upgrade", as you can have ten or so balls at once and get huge scores, especially on medium. smile.gif
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Ouch. Fixed - will be stable in next version.

QUOTE (MaxAstro @ Oct 4 2006, 09:56 PM)
Oh, and "I want my flask empty." works for me.  ...But I can't find anything else that does...  Also, is it intentional that your flask is emptied if you give a wrong answer?
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No, and as far as I can see it doesn't happen. Where do you mean 'wrong answer', and what happened exactly? That would help a lot.

QUOTE (MaxAstro @ Oct 4 2006, 09:56 PM)
EDIT: And if it's not too spoilery, how do you get into the small building to the left of the main HGA facility?
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You don't.... yet.

Ah, bugs. :/ Thanks, everyone.
theprogram00


thats before the bug





not quite the bug i had, but still serious. before i managed to end up half in the sea and half on land so i couldn't move. This time i ended up in the sea but managed to get back on land.

EDIT: i got the pics the wrong way round.
MaxAstro
QUOTE (Srehpog)
I can fix that easily, but I'd also rather understand what caused it in the first place. Did you do anything special before going into that room, such as leaving and re-entering the dungeon? Did you significantly advance any progress anywhere else first?


I don't think so. Can't exactly remember, but I'm pretty sure I was just going through normally. I thought it wierd at the time, but assumed I'd go back and there'd be a boss fight there later in the game, so I didn't take special note of it. Then later in the game came and there still wasn't one, so... I plan to go through the game a second time, so I'll let you know if that happens again.

I do know that it was before I'd beaten the water serpent boss, but that's about all I remember. Also, I'd explored pretty much everywhere around the lake.

QUOTE (Srehpog)
No, and as far as I can see it doesn't happen. Where do you mean 'wrong answer', and what happened exactly? That would help a lot.


Several times I've entered random things in (I think I noticed it when I was trying "I want some Coffee in my flask."), it'll say "Stop wasting my time.", and then my flask is empty. Actually, there have been several times when my flask was empty and shouldn't have been (the one that pissed me off most was when I had a full flask of Supreme Blend and then suddenly at some point it became normal Coffee without me taking lethal damage or pushing the button). However, I'm not entirely sure it's a glitch, as I'm using a gamepad and it's possible I pushed the button without noticing it, or that my gamepad is buggy.

QUOTE (Srehpog)
You don't.... yet.


Hmm.... mysteeeerious.... happy.gif

EDIT: More comments, more questions, more bugs...

Found the fossil. WOW that thing is hidden well. If my friend hadn't happened to say something random that distracted me from making my way through one of the rooms, I never would have found it... There are WAY too many places on that side of the dungeon that look like there should be something there but isn't, like the one place that looks like a door to the left but isn't, and the two circles of stones that have nothing in the middle (Zelda veteran tip: If you're going to have a circle of stones, for the love of the Triforce put something in the middle, or you'll drive people like me insane... smile.gif ).

Speaking of not being able to go places, is it possible to get to the floating chest in the first dungeon, or the open building at the bottom of NSV?

Also, the 200-credit recovery stations don't actually fill your ammo to capacity like they say they do; they seem to give you 50 bullets and 10 mines, even if your capacity is bigger.

Also also, I can't figure out how to get the next size mine bag (I have the 20 one). I'm not asking for a hint yet... but I might need one soon...
xanthom
Very nice game. Well done.
theprogram00
Can someone please tell me how to get the 20 size bomb bag..


p.s on last chapter... will probably write again once finished the game or need another hint.

EDIT: i know this is stupid but where do i get a larger money bag as well...
MaxAstro
Wow, you got to the last chapter with the smallest money bag and the smallest mine bag? That's kinda impressive...

Anyway, here's a few hints:

The New Samosa Museum is looking for fossils; perhaps you could help them out? Surely there'd be something in it for you...

Ever noticed those strange shadows on the ground? There must be something to them; maybe you should try to clear some Space around them.

The research on explosives is progressing well... and perhaps now someone has a use for large, fireproof bags?

Hope those help. I wasn't sure exactly how much of a hint you needed, but those should be plenty.
theprogram00
Thx, i had found 3 fossils but never realised the person behind the counter could give a 1000 credit bag, if only i knew sooner!

I also found the 20 bomb bag

theres a few things which i have treid quite a few times:

1) sea serpent (the one thats to the left of dugeon 2 - not sure what i'll accieve)
2) final boss - managed to defeat 1st stage and floating eye, died when he has 2 legs left.
3)cant find place where you buy 4 bombs upgrade (for rock)
4)still havnt found metal for extra gun (linked to 3 maybe?!???)
5) havnt got "F"

Great game love it. in fact i'm gonna score it:

gameplay: 20/20 - very professional, better than some retail games. - would be a great GBA game
sounds and music: 10/10 - simple yet pleasing.
replay value: 8/10 - I would replay this game. maybe not straight away though.
difficulty: 10/10 - just my level. challenging but makes you come back until you complete it

96% WELL DONE!
MaxAstro
QUOTE (theprogram00 @ Oct 8 2006, 12:01 PM)
1) sea serpent (the one thats to the left of dugeon 2 - not sure what i'll accieve)
He's really, REALLY hard without the gun upgrade. Get it, and he dies pretty fast.

QUOTE (theprogram00 @ Oct 8 2006, 12:01 PM)
2) final boss - managed to defeat 1st stage and floating eye, died when he has 2 legs left.
Not bad. You really need all the ammo upgrades to have a solid chance against him, not to mention... Wait a minute. You got to the LAST STAGE of the final boss WITHOUT the Flask?!? You, sir, are dedicated. Get the Flask and you should be able to kill him as long as you bring some Coffee.

QUOTE (theprogram00 @ Oct 8 2006, 12:01 PM)
3)cant find place where you buy 4 bombs upgrade (for rock)
Well... Maybe you should look for someone who knows a lot about bombs? smile.gif

QUOTE (theprogram00 @ Oct 8 2006, 12:01 PM)
4)still havnt found metal for extra gun (linked to 3 maybe?!???)
Maybe... Here's an unrelated hint, though: Assuming you have 20 bombs and 100 bullets, you should really talk to that guy after you blow up the rock... come back a little later, anyway...

QUOTE (theprogram00 @ Oct 8 2006, 12:01 PM)
5) havnt got "F"
Well, what did the Sea Serpent steal? Maybe you can get it back?

EDIT: Also, more questions, comments, and glitches for Srehpog:

First, add the chest one screen right of the bomb factory to my list of "how the heck are you supposed to get THERE?".

Secondly, is there supposed to be a crystal reward for Bagatelle, the robot wars, or the shooting range? 'Cuase I can't seem to get one for any of those.

Thirdly, could you make it so that the symbols that you clear after the first three still change to the "cleared symbol" shape? Just as a matter of pride/obsessive completeness I'm trying to beat all of them, and it's hard to remember which I've done since they don't change.

Speaking of which, beating all of the symbols instead of just three should probably give a reward of some kind...

Oh, and I finally found the last rifle upgrade, and the last two mine upgrades. Yay! I really should of thought of where they were sooner...
theprogram00
I DID IT!!

WOO I COMPLETED THE GAME!! biggrin.gif

That ending was harsh but i had a feeling that would happen.

I realised that the game should have been A LOT easier.

In the end i found everything i hadn't done linked. (thx MaxAstro)

Now then how many endings are there and how would you go about getting it.... hmm
creative_name
I hace only found 7 blue saphire things

Sorry but I am going to have to sue you for this game and I'll tell you why... I was blinded by its awesomeness ( Do'nt ask how I'm typng)
Darkburger
Wow. Its just like....wow. I'm just in awe. Its a game on par with the Zelda titles (minish cap, four swords) its just SO amazing! The quality, attention to detail, storyline, puzzles, enemies. AWSOME! 100000\10!

Just outta curiosity, is the a Walkthrough for this game anywhere? I'm not good at puzzles and would like a walkthrough!
Srehpog
Bugs. Waaah.

Version 21.10.2006

Get it here.

Some very minor fixes:

QUOTE (theprogram00)
not quite the bug i had, but still serious. before i managed to end up half in the sea and half on land so i couldn't move. This time i ended up in the sea but managed to get back on land.


Fixed - I knew there'd be a couple more places like that...

QUOTE (MaxAstro @ Oct 6 2006, 09:12 PM)
I don't think so.  Can't exactly remember, but I'm pretty sure I was just going through normally.  I thought it wierd at the time, but assumed I'd go back and there'd be a boss fight there later in the game, so I didn't take special note of it.  Then later in the game came and there still wasn't one, so...  I plan to go through the game a second time, so I'll let you know if that happens again.


I think I've fixed this. Looking back at the code....I don't know what I was doing, but it should be OK now. Very bizarre that I wrote what I did and that no-one noticed before now. tongue.gif On the other hand, it may still be completely screwed... we shall see.

QUOTE (MaxAstro @ Oct 6 2006, 09:12 PM)
Several times I've entered random things in (I think I noticed it when I was trying "I want some Coffee in my flask."), it'll say "Stop wasting my time.", and then my flask is empty.  Actually, there have been several times when my flask was empty and shouldn't have been (the one that pissed me off most was when I had a full flask of Supreme Blend and then suddenly at some point it became normal Coffee without me taking lethal damage or pushing the button).  However, I'm not entirely sure it's a glitch, as I'm using a gamepad and it's possible I pushed the button without noticing it, or that my gamepad is buggy.


I've tried that with nearly every combination of flask and request, but nothing seems to go wrong. Perhaps it is just your joypad? If it still happens though, do let me know.

QUOTE (MaxAstro @ Oct 6 2006, 09:12 PM)
Speaking of not being able to go places, is it possible to get to the floating chest in the first dungeon, or the open building at the bottom of NSV?


Maybe.

QUOTE (MaxAstro @ Oct 6 2006, 09:12 PM)
Also, the 200-credit recovery stations don't actually fill your ammo to capacity like they say they do; they seem to give you 50 bullets and 10 mines, even if your capacity is bigger.


Fixed. They shouldn't strictly be saying 'to capacity', as you point out.

QUOTE (MaxAstro @ Oct 8 2006, 09:49 PM)
Secondly, is there supposed to be a crystal reward for Bagatelle, the robot wars, or the shooting range?  'Cuase I can't seem to get one for any of those.


There are for the Bagatelle and shooting gallery (assuming you mean the one is NSV) - can you still not get them?

Apologies for the delay - there was, unsurprisingly, a lot to do.
Swimmfst
Wow ... awesome creation sir! Now that is a piece of art. I continue to enjoy your creation.

In reading through the history, you have really done your homework, dotted all i's, and crossed all t's.
Ross Lam.
I'm stuck in the third room of the pyramid dungeon. I need more time to set off all three switches. I'm trying to use a mine/rifle combination to solve it, but so far, it doesn't work.

EDIT: I finally got it.
Swimmfst
Sorry for stupidity ... I have been at it for hours, and cant find the 3rd dungeon or a way into the guarded village. Any help?

PS -- where do I take the elevator card?

Thx
Tebbo
This may sound stupid, But i am still stuck at the part a little after the first sight of the cape guy. Where he says i have to go to a town across the blizzard. Please help. whistle.gif

BTW: I already got the map
And i got one fossel and two Kytri Cristals. don't know if that help's
Oh ya, its Chapter Two: Water
I thank i found a bug two the only Fossel i have i put in the museum and the person that's soposed to give me stuff for fossel's is saying "But we have recieved nothing!"
Tebbo
Edit reason: Dubble post Sorry
Swimmfst
QUOTE (Tebbo @ Nov 6 2006, 05:59 PM)
This may sound stupid, But i am still stuck at the part a little after the first sight of the cape guy. Where he says i have to go to a town across the blizzard. Please help.  whistle.gif

BTW: I already got the map
And i got one fossel and two Kytri Cristals. don't know if that help's
Oh ya, its Chapter Two: Water
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Hi Tebbo.

Some thoughts. Once you have the map, look in the same guy's room hitting enter over all of the pieces of paper. There should be directions to get you to the lighthouse village the first time in the blizzard.
Tebbo
Okay, Thank's i will look
Swimmfst
Can anybody help me get into the NW village? How do I get around the security? I know that I can't get in by coming from the east, but how to I come in from a different direction?

Many thanks!


Never mind ... got it.
Tebbo
Wow the problem was i was just not going close to the wall. Thank's i got it
Theres that town hurray!
jengajam
Best gm game ever played ! I have played it longer then any other gm game.
I'm a huge fan of Zelda games and this is a lot like it. it looks so professional it could be on an actual game system like the GBA or the DS. Still not even to the 2 dungeon yet though I'm at the part were you just get the map.
its very puzzling.



the only problem i found was you have to be at right against the people to talk to them.

9/10

Good job keep it up.
LOLBNOL
I finally got around to playing this after having it sitting on my hard drive for months... the reason being that the whole introduction scene and pretty much everything until you get the sword and leave NS was amazingly dull and pathetic. And I don't think that's being particularly harsh. Randomly talking to people (which is awkward to begin with) trying to figure out what the hell you're trying to do and how to do it with no action whatsoever is not fun.

Anyway, once that was over the game got a lot more fun. The dungeons in particular were very fun (I'm stuck in the 4th dungeon at the moment) and pretty much everything you had to do was fun - with the notable exception of FURTHER running around and talking to people trying to figure out how the hell you were supposed to do something (Seriously. Not fun). The exception to the exception was the optional swapping quest (I've finished it) but that was only because it wasn't too hard to figure out who wanted what and some of the descriptions were pretty funny.

I'd give it a 8/10, although if certain parts weren't so dull and confusing it would be higher.

Oh, and there's still a bug or two. Once or twice I popped out of a building (I forget which one...) into a rock or similar (breakable with sword) and message boxes in one room of dungeon 3 were up the top left of the screen rather than in the middle. But yeah, on the whole it was pretty professionally done. I wouldn't say good enough for an official console though, and hardly the best game ever in GM. One of the better, perhaps.
grancheater
I'm stuck in the third dungeon, after I get the SAT I manage to go to the dark maze, after I complete it, I see a teleporter, but there is one of those red barriers.

mikeroi
QUOTE (matthew @ Oct 1 2005, 12:13 PM)
looks very good but i am not downloading a 20mb game
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Pfft. He wont, But I WILL!!
Sir Kildar
Can someone make a walkthrough for this game!?
grancheater
I'm known for my impatience.
GamesPenguin
Does anybody know the solution for this puzzle?


I know it leads to a kytri crystal.
Ross Lam.
Who do you trade the broken cocktail glass to?

And how do you kill all of the flashing circles. I'm in the room in the pyramid dungeon where ther is about 20 of them.
Randomsword
Looks very nice biggrin.gif.

Dont have time to download it i need to get up my own gamme tongue.gif


Two questions:
1.Is it any level system.
2.Have you used registered version of gamemaker.
Randomsword
How have you get popup menus.

I have looked for that code a long time.
Ross Lam.
QUOTE (Randomsword @ Nov 21 2006, 02:24 PM)
2.Have you used registered version of gamemaker.
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Of course he used registered version.
Randomsword
Ok i have not registered version laugh.gif does i need that for popup windows?
s(AINT) II
Wow! I love this game. Reminds me a lot of Lttp.
Srehpog
QUOTE (GamesPenguin @ Nov 21 2006, 01:33 AM)
Does anybody know the solution for this puzzle?
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Looking at it, it seems like: left side below, top side, right side, left side above, and below - is the order of tiles to press.

QUOTE (GamesPenguin @ Nov 21 2006, 01:33 AM)
I know it leads to a kytri crystal.
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Really?

QUOTE (Ross Lam. @ Nov 21 2006, 02:10 AM)
How do you kill all of the flashing circles. I'm in the room in the pyramid dungeon where ther is about 20 of them.
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Once you've hit one and immobilised it, you have a short time in which to do the same to all the others. Each circle stays small for a couple of seconds - if you can get them all small at once, they disappear. Try staying in one place and immobilising them as they come to you. You can then get them all at once with bombs and sword.

QUOTE (Randomsword @ Nov 21 2006, 07:24 PM)
Two questions:
1.Is it any level system.
2.Have you used registered version of gamemaker.
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1. All weapon capacities (ammo, bombs etc.) are upgradeable, and there are a couple of optional items, but no EXP or actual levelling.

2. No. GM5.0 standard.

QUOTE (Randomsword @ Nov 21 2006, 07:34 PM)
How have you get popup menus.
I have looked for that code a long time.
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For simple show_message popup boxes;

CODE
switch show_message_ext("Message","Button1","Button2","Button3"){
   case 0: /*no response code here*/;break;
   case 1: /*response 1 code here*/;break;
   case 2: /*response 2 code here*/;break;
   case 3: /*response 3 code here*/;break;
}


Look up show_message_ext and switch statements in the manual. If you want something more powerful (which can respond to keyboard selections or a gamepad) you'll need to write it yourself. In v5.0 you'd need to use a while{} loop - in v6.* you can use instance deactivations, which is a lot simpler. Again, have a look at the manual if you're not sure.
Need_O2
Very very very very*9999999 nice ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
Please see jetman smile.gif
Randomsword
Dont you used registered version. how can the loader window dissapear when loading?

EDIT: thanks for the code! very nice game
GamesPenguin
Oh. Well, I have seven kytri crystals. I know I can get two from the shooting gallery and the ball game in the lodge. I think it's in the cave in the first block room behind the bombable wall surrounded by water. How do I get rid of the water so I can get to the crystal?
Ross Lam.
QUOTE (GamesPenguin @ Nov 22 2006, 05:04 PM)
Oh. Well, I have seven kytri crystals. I know I can get two from the shooting gallery and the ball game in the lodge. I think it's in the cave in the first block room behind the bombable wall surrounded by water. How do I get rid of the water so I can get to the crystal?
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You solve the two block puzzles that appear and then you shoot the two spinning pillars.
grancheater
No one answered my question...
GamesPenguin
QUOTE (GamesPenguin @ Nov 22 2006, 03:04 PM)
Oh. Well, I have seven kytri crystals. I know I can get two from the shooting gallery and the ball game in the lodge. I think it's in the cave in the first block room behind the bombable wall surrounded by water. How do I get rid of the water so I can get to the crystal?
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Really? I solved both the puzzles, but when I shot the spinning pillars they didn't do anything.
Ross Lam.
QUOTE (GamesPenguin @ Nov 23 2006, 01:28 AM)
QUOTE (GamesPenguin @ Nov 22 2006, 03:04 PM)
Oh. Well, I have seven kytri crystals. I know I can get two from the shooting gallery and the ball game in the lodge. I think it's in the cave in the first block room behind the bombable wall surrounded by water. How do I get rid of the water so I can get to the crystal?
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Really? I solved both the puzzles, but when I shot the spinning pillars they didn't do anything.
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After you solve both of the new puzzles that appear after you solve the first one, leave and come back and you should see the pillars spinning. Shoot them and they will sin faster, continue to shoot them until they are spinning as fast as they can. When they both are spinning that fast, the water will drain.
Srehpog
QUOTE (Randomsword @ Nov 22 2006, 07:32 PM)
Dont you used registered version. how can the loader window dissapear when loading?
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As far as I know, that feature doesn't appear in GM5.0 - I think it starts in 5.3 or 6.0.

QUOTE (grancheater @ Nov 23 2006, 12:54 AM)
No one answered my question...
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Try posting a screenshot. Your description isn't all that clear - I can't work out from memory where you mean.

QUOTE (GamesPenguin @ Nov 23 2006, 06:28 AM)
Really? I solved both the puzzles, but when I shot the spinning pillars they didn't do anything.
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You have to waste quite a lot of ammo on them. They slow down very slowly then start reversing the more you shoot them. When they're both on '-100%', you can access the room to the North.
Ross Lam.
I found a bug( I think), in the Final Chapter, if you go back to New Samosa, nobody can talk if their outside.
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