Creative Fusion

Greetings, fellow love and light beings.

Your world is changing, and now, this November 4th of 2012, I believe your life will never be the same after reading what is about to be shared. 2012 has been and is a year of great change. While there are many things I would like to report, to show you some of the changes that have already taken place, for my desire to help bring joy to your heart, to help you look positively towards the now and the near future, all of that will come in due time. Today I come to you to share the works of over 300 people from 37 countries--the product of the "Fix The World Project". Here I will share the project manager's message and links to documents that were put together, created for the sake of helping to usher the world into a Golden Age. Should you have any questions, criticisms, etc., there are contact links in the documents I will link to, but please also consider discussing these matters on any if not all forums you may be a member of. I believe these documents have the ability to greatly touch the hearts of everyone, and simply by sharing them, we are all helping to fix the world. I know there are many talented people here, and all of your talents, wisdom, and love are being called for in the greatest movement in history.

Before you read the documents, I first would like to say that a small portion of it is of a "spiritual" nature, but no religion is being promoted. It is believed that the advancement into this new Age requires the dissolution of fear and judgment and the revolution of love and acceptance for all, regardless of religion (or lack of) or any other factors. It is believed the Mayans, Hopi Indians, and many others actually foresaw 2012 and beyond as a time of spiritual awakening. It is also believed that the way forward for mankind's truest evolution is through unconditional love for each other, which may be assisted by having certain spiritual qualities, which does not necessitate a belief in God. However, I do believe in a higher power and have now awakened to quite a bit in the possibilities in spirituality and science and even evolution and extraterrestrial life, all of which is being presented now and will be presented to all upon the Earth in due time. Please just keep an open mind in the proceedings. It is not my intention to force my personal truth upon you, only to plant the seeds of potential truths in your consciousness. If a seed takes root in your heart and grows into beautiful fruit, then please, eat of it and share it with others you feel are hungry for a sweeter reality. If not, then please uproot that seed and continue growing your own beautiful garden in life. I fully respect you for following your own truth. But also know that what you are about to read is the convergence of truths from many across the world, and I know you can find proof of the few things presented that you may desire proof for. But this is mainly about helping to fix the world, so please let that be your focus.

Here is the message from the "Fix The World Project" manager, HopeGirl. Please excuse the caps locks, as she is clearly very excited!

WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR! THE FIX THE WORLD PROJECT RESULTS.

THIS IS BY FAR THE MOST POWERFUL THING ANY OF US HAS EVER EXPERIENCED. So far not one of the 20 volunteers has been able to read through this without being brought to tears. It has this much heart. This much passion. And this much truth.

It is a book of solutions written by over 300 people from 37 countries. We have put thousands of combined man-hours into this over the last 3 months.

For all of you reading this now who have been waiting. THIS IS IT! THIS IS THE PARADIGM SHIFT!

WATCH! JUST WATCH WHAT THIS DOCUMENT DOES!

TRUST ME. THIS IS NOT A JOKE. WHEN YOU READ THIS, YOU WILL FEEL THIS ENERGY!!

SO LETS DO THIS! LETS BE THE CHANGE! LETS BE THE SHIFT! THE TIME IS NOW!!!

HOW TO FIX THE WORLD SUMMARY

Reference Library

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HOW TO FIX THE WORLD COMPLETE

Dear ones, in this topic, please forgive anyone that does not say something quite perfectly, and ignore any negativity. Please consider providing constructive criticism to HopeGirl on her website, and/or share your feelings here and/or with everyone you know. We are all needed to make things happen as quickly as possible. As the saying goes, we are the ones we've been waiting for, and we must be the change if we want to help fix the planet now. Prior to this day, some have stated that today's date has been divinely decreed. While I know many will not believe that, we the people can certainly decree that the world changes now through our thoughts, actions, and raising our positive vibrations, moving the hearts of everyone we come across to the point that there is a quantum shift in consciousness to a new timeline of love and light.

You are very much appreciated for doing anything you can to help make our world a better place, even if it's just sharing these documents with others. Thank you very much.

Love and peace to you all.

Discussion on religion and science has increased sharply, but like in almost all discussions of this sort, I see that some important areas are still not being covered. Browsing the web and talking with people in-person, it appears to me that the vast majority are unaware of some of the things I am about to introduce.

I proposed in one topic that there is compelling "support" for God's existence and asked anyone, atheists in particular, to contact me as an experiment of their willingness to even seek out such information. If anyone, including believers in God, is not willing to investigate all avenues of information and experiences presented them, then are they truly committed to discovering truth? Or do they simply wish to hold rigidly to their current beliefs? They might simply not want to be "wrong", or they might fear that they have to change their entire lifestyle to appease the supposed unrelenting requirements of God. Or they might believe that if they falter in their current belief in any way that their God will punish them forever. But please do not ignore science, religion, or "supernatural" experiences. Accept the notion that truth may be found in all of these areas. Entertain the idea that both Evolution and God are real, for example.

What potential scientific or mathematical or supernatural "support" exists for God? What writings exist that speak of both God and Evolution and other sciences, history, and more that both believers and non-believers can appreciate, yet most have never heard of? These are a few things I will introduce here in hopes to ignite the spirit of investigation. First I will post a few quotes from myself as an introduction to the widely unknown. Then I will post the discussion I have had with the one atheist that was willing to contact me, Katuko.


An Introduction to the Unknown

Please read this you "TL;DR"'ers.

Eugenie Scott makes a meaningful distinction between philosophical materialism (the belief that gods do not exist, or at least do not interfere with the order of nature), and methodological materialism which is a pragmatic exclusion of all supernatural concepts from scientific explanations, whether or not such supernatural things exist. The important point to observe is that methodological materialism makes no claim that supernatural realms do not exist; It merely ignores the supernatural for practical reasons. I highly recommend listening to her entire talk, but for brevity's sake I've fast forwarded you right to the point where she makes this point quite clearly: Intelligent Design and Creationism/Evolution Controversy

I appreciate this type of message. I merely wanted to point out to the general public reading this, who generally tend to be completely on one side of the fence or the other--believing only in Evolution or only in God--that evidence for one does not disprove the other. It is possible to believe in both once you actually seek out and find certain information and experiences that help unify your understanding. For example, there is a strong camp of people that believe that God has allowed for evolution on certain evolutionary worlds (other worlds being of the perfect order) and does not directly guide its process, yet that each life experimentation planet, being of the evolutionary type, does benefit by receiving an initial life plasm implantation based on the evolved dna of prior such worlds.

The evolution mumbo-jumbo is against my Christian belief.
God created Earth and all animals that live there in 7 days.
There were no cavemen, just think of Adam and Eve, the first people to EVER live life on Earth. Nowhere in the bible does it describe anything of the two being  cavemen. Adam named all the animals and they could talk perfectly!

I believe in God and Jesus Christ and other figures, but evolution is not against my belief in an way, because I have become aware of certain information and real "supernatural" experiences. Speaking from my belief, Adam and Eve were not the first humans. (Does any Bible actually literally say they were "the first humans"? I believe that is merely an assumption given that they are merely the first humans introduced. But then people wonder if all other humans were simply the result of their inbreeding, which doesn't make sense to them.... Just keep in mind there are more revelations on these stories that you should at least look at, and I can point you in that direction.) However, Adam and Eve did exist as biological uplifters and teachers bestowed upon this planet much longer after the first humans actually did evolve here. Adam and Eve were not cavemen (and The Bible never said they were), but perfectly created beings living on another world before they were allowed to be materialized on this planet to help us. Their story in the Bible is essentially true, but there are certain metaphors in The Bible such as "The Tree of Knowledge" (but the "Tree of Life" was literally a tree). However, to help anyone potentially believe anything I propose, there is something more concrete I wish to share. Keep in mind that I used to be a skeptic before certain undeniable things started happening to me.

The God of Abraham is NOT something I would want to worship. To me the old testament portrays him to be nothing but a hateful, nasty vengeful creature undeserving of  my worship. Equally, I don't agree with the reference to want to be worshipped.

And I really don't understand your conclusion that providing evidence would be lost on him, or probably on me.

I can understand this. I don't consider any wholly religious book for example to necessarily be perfect or literal, and a more vengeful God may be depicted due to infiltration by various parties that merely desired to frighten people enough to keep them in line.

But I first want to say, coming from the religious side of my belief (I believe in Evolution also, without a doubt, and I am merely stressing this point again because most people don't know how it is possible to believe in both, and I will get to that), I have read that the person referred to as Lucifer did not believe in The Father either. Just think about that for a moment.... I can point believers wishing to know how this would even make sense to such a being in the direction of such text. But let us consider that this is in fact reality. Because of things like this and other reasons I'll mention, it is my belief that almost no atheist could ever truly be convinced of God, no matter what is presented to him. (I am not speaking to you in particular.) If a god-like being were to appear on this planet, performing wonders, not even then do I believe that most atheists would believe in God (or they might at least "hate" him, as it is said). I believe they would likely just say that person had access to advanced technology that allowed him to create the illusion of being a god (which, it seems, there may already be enough technology out there to create such an illusion--with hologram tech, tech that can project messages into people's minds at a distance, tech that can see through people's walls, tech that may cause earthquakes, etc.). And if the atheist didn't believe that god-like being was a charlatan, they would more likely believe the person to be from another "normal" planet before they'd ever consider believing that person was actually a god. What type of validation do you really require? If we are to consider that God is real, given the  stress of the importance of faith, I doubt He would allow for there to be a real precise scientific process by which all people could confirm His existence. People may just need to "free their minds" and at least investigate other forms of "support" that can be just as convincing. There is at least a mathematical and a deep associated scientific component in what I propose. However, just as science alone will never prove without a doubt what precisely happened in the origins of the universe, science alone will likely never prove the existence of God to a far enough to degree to appease the impossible requirements of the most rigid non-believer.

Private Messages With An Atheist

Hi. Thanks for writing. I am just writing this up for the first time. Note that nothing is necessarily meant for you personally, as I want to write something that I can send to anyone that asks. It may be very long-winded, but please read it all from start to finish. I have a purpose for everything I say here. I don't expect a response on everything or anything at all if you care not to send one.

First, I want to start with a mild warning. In this message I will mention just a few ways that you can visibly be certain of God's existence (though, more directly, of the existence of angels and of God by association). However, some people may not like these methods. Some may believe them to be associated with "demons" or other dark forces. And that may be a possibility. I can not say I am perfect in my understanding of this, but I strongly believe these methods to be entirely good and will say why later on. You do not need to pour blood into any cups, rub amulets, burn sticks, or anything like that. It is all very natural. All you need is yourself and your "inner guide". However, if you do either of these things, the results may possibly become a frequent "freak-out" for you. Or, you may actually love what happens, as it has the potential to greatly assure you of certain things from day-to-day and help you in your Life Path. Every day you might start seeing these occurrences I am about to speak of, several times a day. By continuing to read this message and seeking these things out, you acknowledge that you are aware of what might possibly happen. You acknowledge that you are strong and mature enough to handle it, and I can't be held responsible for any possible "unpleasantness" that you may occasionally feel (not physically, but possibly psychologically).

Now, I say all of that, but I believe many people that experience one of these occurrences every day are very happy about it once they start realizing what it means, or so I have seen on various forums and blogs and such. This is a mass occurrence. I am sure thousands if not millions have already experienced it. Search YouTube videos, for example. I do not claim to be a prophet or anyone particularly special. But also, this might not work for everyone due to certain factors I will also mention later. Now onto a little background information, my personal story, and the methods. Sorry if it takes a while to build up to the point. But stop reading right now if you are not ready!

Now this isn't that mind-blowing. I am sure many people have experienced this a few times in their life without thinking much about it. Some skeptics will just attribute it to mere coincidence, but then there are people like me that experience it many, MANY times a day in various forms, and we know it is too much to be a mere coincidence. Though I am not saying that it is necessarily a good or a bad thing to see it so much. I do not know it all, of course.

If you were to see something very particular, perhaps 10 or 20 or more times a day, every day of your life, would you not think it important? Even more, if this thing started happening to you like it did to me right after discovering a set of spiritual "transmissions" and an extremely insightful, more modern book on God, science, the full history and future of the universe, and so on--a book purportedly the work of angels and other "celestial" beings--would you not start considering that maybe God does exist? Let me say that I was a bit skeptical about some things before this started happening to me, as were may others, which is why I feel like I should share this with people.

First I want to say that the book is not even close to being the sole basis of my message, but I will say a little bit about the book to begin. It does not claim to be the inspired word of God. Once again, it contains the words of various angels and other spirit beings, all very loving and friendly and speaking directly (not metaphorically) on many of the same things you can find in The Bible and other religious texts, as well as in science, history, etc.--both old and upcoming--in much more detail and with much more new revelation than anything else you have ever encountered. It is written and transmitted in various places OUTSIDE the book that it is now time, particularly in the year 2012 and beyond (but let's not worry too much of "doomsday"), for man to receive more direct answers about God and the universe. But I believe there are several truths in many major religious books. However, I do not believe any book is necessarily perfect. It is believed that some books may have been slightly infiltrated by certain government or church in order to place extra fears into society to help keep us in line or perhaps have us stray from truths that could empower us. It is possible that some things that people believe are inherently "bad" (due to certain religious texts and their myriad versions) may in fact be "good". It may have only been made to look "bad" by the infiltrators to steer us away from things that can help empower all of us, help us become less reliant on certain faulty governments and other institutions and more reliant on ourselves and our inner voice and the abilities that God allows us to tap into in order to be  more self-sufficient. Now certainly the reverse may also be true, and some things we believers believe are "good" may in fact be "bad" for us. You have to be really careful and not necessarily believe ALL that you read. That includes anything that I say here, because I may in fact be wrong. Listen to your inner voice to help you discern what is true.

Now onto what you are really interested in, a few methods of realization.

The simple method begins with the study of numbers. I read a "transmission" said to be from a spirit being that said we (us believing in this) should continue telling others about the "time prompts". Even if you have already heard about the time prompts, please continue reading for my extraordinary personal experience with them and other associated phenomena, and of course on how you can possibly start seeing these "signs" also.

It is written that certain types of spirit beings have the ability to influence our environment and electronics, for example. Many people may believe in dark entities that they may refer to as "poltergeists". But a benevolent order of spirit being with this power often uses numbers--so-called "time prompts"--to send people a message. I and many others are very familiar with these prompts. The numbers are very distinctive. There are several patterns, each potentially with their own message. Though some believe certain numbers may mean different things to different people at different times.

Many are aware of the recurring numbers in The Bible or in the world for example, like the number 7 (7 days of creation, 7 years of plenty and 7 years of famine, 7 deadly sins, 7 Spirits of God, 7 virtues, 7 wonders of the world, and much more). People wonder why many things come in groups of 7 or another number, though many just write things off as mere coincidences. But I believe God is very purposeful with numbers. If He is in fact God after all, then He is the the master architect. Numbers would surely mean something to Him in his many perfect or evolutionary formulas. Though I know some people believe things like numerology are inherently "evil" due to a certain passage in The Bible for example. But I don't believe most anything is inherently bad. Most things are dual-edged swords. While many believers may believe attempting to talk to spirits is inherently evil, I believe if you do it with a basic level of spirituality and prayer and seek out the truly good, friendly angels, for example, it is fine, and you will know this by the loving feeling and type of messages you receive.

Now, since I have very briefly attempted to establish the importance of numbers, let us take a look at some and finally get to the point: 1:11, 2:22, 3:33, 4:44, 3:03, 4:04, 5:05, 1:23, 3:21, 12:34, 10:10, 11:11.... These are very distinctive, no? It is a small sample, but imagine if you started seeing numbers like these 10 or 20 or more times a day RIGHT after reading a set of spirit transmissions for the first time or reading an astoundingly revelational book on religion, science, and the like. What if you saw number patterns like these on all clocks in your house, your phone, emails, tv, receipts, food products, license plates, and essentially EVERYWHERE else? Now imagine you see these number patterns EXTREMELY often during the day and night, but also EVERY day of your life now since your initial exposure to the spiritual transmissions and writings. People like me (and you too if you'd like to attempt the methods) will for no apparent reason get the sudden urge to look at a clock or any of those other things I just listed right when it is a "special" time (or a few seconds before), yet feel no special urge at any other "normal" time of the day. Coincidence? Perhaps. But let me give you a more personal example that is particularly interesting to these forums. Also, keep in mind that I have more than just numbers to talk about.

The day of my first post in this topic on the forums [NOTE: That was the "Your Religious Beliefs" topic], prior to that (and afterwards), I had been seeing the number 55 a lot (on clocks in particular). Having looked up its association on my favorite angel numbers webpage, I have fully identified with its meaning for me in this time. Now, my first post in the topic (post #203) drew my attention right after I posted it. Firstly, I saw that my post count was 55. Even now still, having posted a few more times in the topic [and another], I still see my post count reads 55. Though I am sure that one is probably due to some technical reason of course.... The post above mine (#202) from flexaplex reads on my computer as having been posted at 10:55 (I am GMT -5 by the way, Eastern Time [NOTE: I later discovered after sending this message, as I point out later, that I forgot I never set my timezone in my forum settings. It is still at GMT 0.]). At the time of my post that day (#203), I noticed that the number of posts made by the user Rusty was 1955. (Right now I see his post count has increased though. So you'll just have to take my word on it that it was at 1955 when he made that post (#204). And I see post #205 contains a quote from chance that contains a timestamp of 5:55. Now the 10:55 from flexaplex and the 1955 from Rusty are even more significant to me. You see, you know that amazing book on religion, science, history, and everything that I spoke of earlier? The initial standard publication date for that book is October of 1955-- that is 10/55. That relates to the 10:55 from flexaplex. Also, there is the 1955 post count from Rusty, and he just so happened to have joined these forums in the 10th month. I swear I did not attempt to somehow orchestrate these supposed coincidences. I just happened to come to the forums at the right time and take just the right amount of time to make my post. As you can see from my join date of 2006 and with only 55 posts, I hardly ever post anything. But for some reason I felt compelled to come and post now.

Here are a few more numbers of note that I made sure to write down while writing this and working on other things during the day. I was prompted to see my clock turn to 4:44 as I was typing the word "clock" in this very same sentence. Other times I encountered today are 10:55 again, 11:55, 3 33 33 (this one being the Line, Column, and Character number in the status bar of the Visual C++ program I have open), 10444 (the number of emails in my Yahoo account I saw when I first opened it today), 1:55, 2:02, 3:21, 4:04, 4:33, 4:55, 5:05, 6:06, 6:36, 6:56, 7:27, 7:37, 8:22, 9:09, 9:19, 10:22. I also just recently revisited the other pages I have posts on in the topic, and I see many special timestamps, like 11:11 (an angel favorite) for Smarty. Now realize that the day has plenty more hours left, and I'll likely randomly get the urge to look at many more times in various places before the day is over. Now also realize this volume of number patterns I and others see every day, only much more so for me right now since I started posting in the topic. I've never seen more numbers than I have seen today. One that I liked seeing a few days ago was 1:11, twice in a row on separate clocks in the house that had about a 15-minute time discrepancy between them. The second time I saw the 1:11, about 10 or so seconds afterward (probably 11) I heard Howie Mandel on Deal or No Deal announce that the offer was $111,000. The next day, a guy on a wedding show was driving in his car and noted that the time was 1:11 and he just saw 111 on a billboard. And the list goes on and on....

According to the book I speak of, in the beginning there were only 1,111 of these spirit beings. They also made a request to the higher-ups to let the number 1111 sort  of become their "calling card" to humanity, hence the more prominent 11:11 time prompt. These beings in particular are said to be very playful. They may occasionally ring your doorbell, and when you look, you see no one within a stretch. This has happened to me, and I am nearly certain it wasn't a prank child this time, unless they can run as fast as Sonic the Hedgehog or have skills like Solid Snake.... They may also temporarily turn out a street lamp, which once happened to me right as I got next to one while driving. I heard a loud pop, and it went out completely. But after a little while (maybe around 10 seconds) I decided to look back, and the very instant I did, the street lamp came back on.

I believe it was the first night when I started seeing the numbers that I awoke at 4:44 AM feeling a strong tapping on my back (as if they were playfully saying "Hey, newcomer!") and saw the lamp outside my window on the neighbor's house pulse (and it did that quite often in weeks afterward), saw other small lights in my bedroom on the wall I hadn't noticed before (though that part I admit may have actually been a coincidence), and I felt a very loving sensation. Now some people reading this are probably thinking that having something like this happen so often would freak them out, and it did freak me out to the point where I essentially asked them to stop and unplugged my clock and covered my window excessively and such. Of course then I started seeing the numbers more frequently on my computer clock. :D Now I can't get away from the numbers it seems. I remember one time even having the power in the house briefly go out due to a storm, but my digital clock came back on flashing with the time 3:33. Another time I said something to the effect of "Ok, angels. I think I get it. But if you're really real, I want you to wait until the moment that I raise my right hand, and at that moment make the lamp outside my window grow brighter." And after saying so, I waited probably about 60 seconds or so before I raised my right hand, and the lamp which had been dim came in very brightly at that very instant in two separate stages of intensity. A few future attempts at such "contact" failed, but then I later read somewhere that you really shouldn't continue to ask for direct confirmation like that (which makes sense with the concept of faith), though you are likely to receive some sort of sign at least once, I believe. I know some of this may make me sound like I am crazy. But I am quite sane, thank you very much.

Now I don't know if the methods for beginning to see the numbers and other interesting things will work for everyone. You find when reading various spirit transmissions and the book I speak of--The Urantia Book (you can read it for free online and much supporting material like diagrams of the universe, timelines, etc. at truthbook.com)--the angels and other spirit beings have a precise method about how they go about doing things in order to, for example, make direct contact with mortals a safe experience. In SOME cases, I believe it is transmitted that your spirituality and positive intent (and possibly your body and environment) need to be at a certain level of harmony in order to be able to directly communicate with or even actually SEE them (which is transmitted as being possible). I haven't gone as far as doing all of the steps to personally see or speak with them, because I don't feel "ready" for that yet. You can search out all that sort of information on your own. Though, in a nutshell, meditation and/or visualization exercises is what you would primarily be looking into to achieve such direct communication. Now again, I know some people believe these practices are "evil" for some reason, but it is transmitted that you need to be in the proper state of mind with good intent to communicate only with the loving spirits in order to not accidentally attract the dark ones. You must be very careful about this.

But if you simply wish to see the time prompts, it is transmitted that you can ask your angels to show them to you. Express your good intention and desire for knowledge and belief. If you want a particular sign (like I potentially received in the raising of my hand experiment), you must be very specific about it and ask, and your request may be granted. It may take a day or a week or two for you to see anything. It is not completely clear to me. If you want more specifics, I ask that you search for them ("angel numbers", "time prompts", "meditation", etc.), as I am actually fairly new to all of this. If nothing else, I recommend reading The Urantia Book, which, by the way, still speaks of Jesus as Lord and creator (of our local universe), but also of the major heroes in other religious text, and even of the FACT of evolution, for those that may be concerned that this message is aimed at supporting only a single faith. I also recommend visiting community sites like truthbook.com.

If you have any questions or criticisms, I will respond as I am able to. There is more to share, and I care about your opinion. And please feel free to share this message with others for whatever reason.

P.S: The time I saw on my microwave when I finished the first draft of this message and went downstairs for a late lunch break was 6:06. Urantia--the planet that we humans call Earth--is listed in The Urantia Book as being the 606th planet registered in our local universe. I had also been prompted to see the same time at the moment I first told my mother about the book. Pretty neat, right?

I swear that none of these supposed coincidences I have mentioned were fabricated to help make a point. These things are my everyday life now.

First, I want to say that I don't understand why you would put such a long-winded disclaimer up there. Even if these tests revolved around spilling blood and summoning demons; if they actually yielded results it wouldn't matter in the end from a scientific point of view. As long as there is evidence, I am not saying we should all go satanic, but it would be a nice break from the usual blind faith and unsubstantial arguments that usually comes from the religious front I am familiar with.

Now, to the actual matter at hand.

I have now spent the past few days trying to find these numerological patters you claim provide such compelling evidence. I have checked the times I get up and go to bed, my family's birth dates (my grandmother even turned 90 this weekend), the clock whenever I do anything of even slight importance, the cash I got from shop work, the number of wares I stacked, the numbers on bills, the time when I had some strange customer pass by, the times the lights flickered in my crappy lamp, etc. etc.

I looked up the times of death of past family members, of the exact birth times of me and my sister and everyone else I could think of. I asked my friends to be on the lookout for any kind of signs as well, since they like discussing such subjects and one of them is even inclined to believe what you say.

I sincerely laid in bed one night and felt the want to see some sort of sign. It was not a mocking "show me what you got, angels" feel, it was not a desire to prove anything. It was just a feeling of want to know, to see for myself these things.

However, so far there has been no sign at all, for neither me or my friends. In the past, I have never felt any such things, never seen any strange signs. Even when I started forcing signs, by adding numbers together every which way, there was no tangible proof that there was any relation to anything at all.

The numbers you list have something in common, however. They all appeal to the part of our brain that likes symmetry and patterns. 111, 222, 333, etc., they are all written the same way forwards and backwards. With all the digits being equal, our brain automatically latches onto such "rare" occurances compared to the "jumbled mess" that is the rest of the numbers in our system. Ditto for 202, 404 and similar, which can be reversed without change. 10:22, in the 24-hour system, reads as "ten-ten". 55 happens to be the year which the book you mention came out. Nowhere, however, is it explained why these numbers have anything to do with angels or demons or whatever you call the presumed spiritual presence.

As said, it's a well-tested fact that our brain likes patterns. Even the ancient Greek based studies upon this, and we still use compositional principles in our modern-day designs. Basic geometric shapes, numbers that stand in relation to each other, colors that compliment or contrast each other... extremely common. The brain also creates patterns to help simplify things, like how we have acronyms, sentences and small rhymes to help us remember important stuff. It also conjures up images at times, which is why eyewitness reports in the legal system are viewed as relatively sketchy. A test of this was done easily by yours truly to several friends of mine. Simply put: I bring up an event we were participating in, and that I have a photo of. Then, without saying what I'm doing, I ask them about some detail that I have proof of in the picture. For example: "remember that silly t-shirt Mike was wearing that whole day?". If they then didn't remember, I asked a leading question, like "y'know, that red one with a crocodile on it?" and in 13 out of 18 cases they all said that "oh yeah, I remember that!" with sincerity. However, in every case this was also bleedingly wrong, because to continue on the "Mike" example: I made up that t-shirt. It never existed. In fact, he never wore a t-shirt that day, because it was freezing outside. But simply by me giving them a cue, they thought they remembered. Worse, if I then said "no, that was wrong", they would even protest, stating that no, they were pretty sure I was right the first time. I had to show them the relevant images to make them believe that I was lying.

What does this experiment tell me? Well, it proves that people can fool themselves given external stimuli. In the case of you and the numbers, I strongly believe that the reason you see/saw them so often is two-fold: 1) they are noticable numbers by virtue of having patterns, 2) your brain was actively looking for them, even if only subconsciously. Every other number that does not fit the mold is then just dismissed. For example, you open the fridge and glance at the clock. Oh wow, it's 1:11 PM! No way you'd have noticed that otherwise, it must have been meaningful! Not really. You know how a lot of people can wake up at the right time in the morning without an alarm clock? They go to bed at 10, and think "I need to get up at 6 tomorrow..." and then they wake up at 6 o'clock. Me, I can sleep or half-sleep on the bus, safely knowing that just before I reach my destination, I will wake. By brain knows roughly how much time I have, what time it is and when to wake me. The exception is when I'm deathly tired, but I rarely if ever oversleep. My point of saying this is that our "internal clock" can easily take notice of what time it is by several factors, such as daily routines or the light outside, etc. This makes you not look at the clock except at important times, for example when it's nearing the time to leave for school/work (checking the time progressively more often). So if your brain kinda wants to take notice at 1:11 PM, it will. In the same vein, if I see the number 23-41-47 at a bill and want to add it up to 111, I can do that, but I believe that is forcing the evidence. You also say that you did not notice these things "EXTREMELY often" or at all before you got told of the possibilities of numerology. That is not a good for your stance on this, and I'd say that one would have to drag in a bunch of neutral test subjects (like my mostly-unwitting friends) and have them notice number patterns in their lives before being told what they might be.

But for argument's sake, let us say that your personal experience really does extend to me as well, and that I'm inclined to believe that the frequent appearances of these numbers is somehow important to our world. That still involves the leap of logic that it proves the existence of what we (for the sake of definition) might call "higher" or "supernatural" beings. If these things exist, and attempt to make contact with us for whatever reason, it should be noticable, but flickering lights or strings of numbers (In a very number-oriented society, no less! I see thousands of numbers every single day by virtue of being a programmer!) is hardly evidence either. The Urantia Book says there were originally 1,111 spirit beings. How does it know? Where did it get this evidence? The author of this book is not even named, unlike the Bible, which at least lists John and Paul and several others.

The lights in my bathroom flicker now and then, likely due to faulty wiring. Sitting down on the toilet, they might decide to slowly dim, only to flare up again when I look at them. One or two times I have mockingly waved my hand at them, and that has caused them to light up properly. Should I call this supernatural? No, not at all. For the amount of times it has "worked", there are dozens of times it has not. You say yourself that you have had no further success in your "lamp contact". Brushing off the non-success because "they would want me to have faith" is not a good argument, because it does a lot of unhealthy assumption. If these beings/entities/whatever gave you one sign and wants you to believe, then waning faith should be enough to prompt another. No one I have asked have had any success in producing a sign at all, not even the "want-to-believers".

Some days I can walk outside, I can stretch my arms and draw in the wonderful smell of fresh air through my nose. Walking in the mountains, gazing out over the  magnificent landscape, I truly feel like I belong in this world. I feel that despite all its shortcomings, it is a splendid thing. "Tuning in" to nature like this, however, gives me no spiritual feeling. Not at all. "Meditation" is an extremely vague concept, fitting most faith-based teaching I have encountered when it comes to discovering ghosts or spirits. You also speak of potentially good/evil spirits, though I think that is assuming an awful lot about spirits in general.

Now, if I may do some assuming of my own, then let us say that given my skeptical nature, I might not be able to detect a spirit even if it exists. Now, you, on the other hand, if you're not convinced by my arguments, then I ask you this: If you do end up seeing a spirit, please ask it lots and lots of questions. As many as you can. Ask it what it is, why it is here, how it came to be, what its purpose is, and if it can show itself to everyone and properly end the debate. Try to video tape it. Try to make some kind of record of the event. Not just your own writing, but soemthing tangible, something that can be used as proof. Because without it, it might as well have been a dream. I've had lots of those. I've woken all sweaty, and for several seconds felt as if some monster (always strangely connected to the latest film I might have watched...) had really just been grappling me.

Your mind is a powerful tool, and I think that if you want to discover the unknown, you should search for truths about how your own brain acts rather than numerological spirits.

EDIT: I finished this post and sent it at 10:31. No magic number there, for the record. The word count was 1782, which does not add up to anything either. Just saying.

Hi. Thanks for attempting these things and sharing with your friends and writing back. I will make a few clarifications.

First I want to say that you have been actively looking for the numbers, but I have never had to go searching for them. When I first spoke of the several occurrences of the number 55 that day for example (which I still don't understand why my post count still reads as 55 in all my posts, yet has the correct number in my profile [though I have an idea], but then I don't know how this forum software precisely works), I only went looking for other occurrences of the number 55 above and below my post because I had already been prompted to see the first 55 in my post. I have never thought to myself, "I want to find some numbers" and actively looked for them, but have had sudden urges to look in the right place at the right time, without being able to stop myself. So I recommend that one thing you try to do is not trying anything at all. Wait until you first feel the sudden urge to look somewhere out-of-the-way for no apparent reason, then perhaps you might find more numbers in the vicinity. Also, don't forget to directly ask the angels (and maybe even your internal "Thought Adjuster") to start showing you the time prompts. Humor them if nothing else. Even if you don't believe at all, just try saying it to them and thinking it, and let it go from there. I did not have to ask them myself, but I will talk more about why I may be able to see the numbers more often than some others in a minute.

With your desire to see a sign, it was "transmitted" that you need to ask for a very specific sign. I also want to clarify that each time I used the word  "transmitted", I didn't mean something that was necessarily in The Urantia Book (though it could be, since I haven't read it all yet), but that I found in spirit transmissions--"channelings". These transmissions were my first real exposure to these spirit beings, and no numbers were in those transmissions. Yet it was almost immediately that I began noticing the deluge of numbers everywhere and later found more transmissions, one of which said to continue telling people about the time prompts, yet mentioning no specific time patterns whatsoever.

Since I haven't read all of The Urantia Book yet, I do not know if it itself speaks directly of numbers, which may be why you haven't found anything regarding numbers in them. If you would like to read some channelings that got me started, I can direct you, but I have to say I have also found channelings that seem to deliver some similar messages yet feel obvious to me to be impersonated, so you might have to be a bit careful with this.

I agree with about how the brain may work with patterns. I am, for example, able to tell myself to wake up at certain times. However, the transmissions I read contained no mention of any specific number patterns at all. I never saw any numbers like 12:34 and so on in any transmission or writing until I suddenly started seeing them all at once after reading unrelated transmissions about things like the real first humans--Andon and Fonta--and the full story of Adam and Eve, and after reading a little of The Urantia Book for the first time. So I don't believe my brain could have begun subconsciously searching for numbers so instantly and overwhelmingly after reading those things, because I hadn't seen any such numbers to begin with, except maybe only a very few number of times over the course of my adult life.

Also, let me go back to the Deal or no Deal example. I saw 1:11 on one clock in the house, somehow decided to get up about 15 minutes later and see 1:11 on another clock in the house, and then about 10 or 11 seconds later hear Howie Mandel announce that the deal was $111,000. You could perhaps say my brain and body had somehow become attuned to the times of the day (though, evidently even when they aren't the actual times of the day), but my brain or body would know nothing of a television show I hadn't even been watching (I just overhead it), and had only even watched halfway through one other time in my life. (I'm not exactly a fan of it.)

I knew virtually nothing of numerology until after I started seeing the numbers. Precisely, I knew of no special number patterns beforehand. The only thing I had known about numerology prior was that I associated it with fake psychics and didn't believe in it, back then. After looking into numerology, however, I learned that my Life Path number is 7 (birthdate 12+18+1984 = 2014 = 2 + 1 + 4 = 7), which is listed as being a highly spiritual number, and I am said to have a "close link with the spiritual realm". After receiving a very extensive read out on my Life Path number, I completely identify with it, and it is not stuff that can be generally applied to anyone. I mention my Life Path number, because in the spirit transmissions I read a Q&A section that said something to the effect of "Why am I seeing the time prompts", and the answer was something to the effect of "Because the angels are able to prompt you". Now again, I don't claim to be particularly special, but according to them, it is easier to prompt some people more than others. I don't remember all of the specifics. Seeing as how I completely identify with my Life Path number (and everyone I have tested in my family identifies with theirs also, and it is said that only a small percentage of people don't identify at all), and the fact that my number is a spiritual number, that may be a reason why I am so easily able to be prompted.

I want to clarify that there were originally 1,111 of these particular spirit beings referred to as The Midway Creatures (truthbook.com/index.cfm? linkID=1324). I'm not sure what you mean by how does The Urantia Book know. Because of how compelling the book is--particularly in how it marries God, science, and history, and adequately answers any lingering questions I personally have and speaks of new things I could have never imagined--I am simply believing it is what it says it is--a book of transmissions from various angels and others in-the-know. All of these so-called coincidences and my particular "supernatural" experiences seem to align with what these Midway Creatures are known for doing, so it is only logical for me personally to believe in them.

I'm not sure how many outside house lights pulse (not flicker, but increase slowly and steadily in light) like the way I saw that one night. I also forgot to mention that, when I said the light came in at two stages of intensity, it first grew from being extremely dim, and then I smiled and literally said "Brighter" in my bedroom, and then the light came in much brighter then. (I am concealed within my room, mind you, so no one outside my house could hear me if you're thinking it might have been a prank.) When I said I tried that sort of contact again, it wasn't the same request as before. It wasn't a request at all actually. I was just playing with them. I just very quickly said something to the effect of "Flicker the lights!". I hadn't expected or really wanted another confirmation, because, as I said, the whole ordeal did really freak me out at first.

As for more proof, I may eventually go through with the full visualization process (there are written steps for these sort of things, so it's not too vague), but the idea of that still freaks me out for the time being. However, it is either written or transmitted (or both, I can't quite remember) that you have to have reached certain levels of spirituality in order to be able to see them directly. Once you read these things, you find that requirements for some things aren't necessarily a "Just because we say so", but "You have to do it this way due to certain technical reasons having to do with the way your body, mind, and spirit precisely works in accordance with the different material, spiritual, and mind-gravity circuits". Even those in the "afterlife" (what is really life on perfected planets) can't see certain beings of higher order due to certain technical limitations. If you are to consider investigating the book you will find very precise answers for all of these things that I am merely hinting at.

As for you not receiving a special number at the end of your message, I do at least see your message comes through for me as being at 9:19. The 9-series of numbers I haven't seen very much at all until that day I sent you the first message. So it may not mean anything to you, but having looked it up its association on my go-to angel numbers webpage, it certainly relates to me at this stage in my life. Let me also say that I just checked my forum settings, and I never set my timezone. It is currently set to GMT 0 (London), and I will leave it there since it's not really important to me. Just wanted to let you know that in case you were trying to track my numbers, since I realize it's not set to GMT -5 like it is supposed to be. That means the numbers I am seeing on this board are not the actual times of the day for me, yet I have seen them in those particular areas anyway.

Now, Smarty said I should post a topic, and if I do, I may include some more information. But would you be opposed to me including your counters in the topic so people can see things from both sides? You can be anonymous if you wish.

I do not need to be anonymous in that case, no. You might copy/paste my entire reply if you feel like it or ask me to do it, no problem. But if you use it yourself, make sure to re-post it in its entirety, without alterations. If I'm going to be proven right or wrong it's going to be by my own words.

My main problem with your thoughts about the numbers is that they are still fitting patterns you would latch onto. One does not need any prompt or spiritual attuning to go "hey, the clock is 2:22, how funny!" after all. We got lots of such numbers. Every symmetrical one, every reversible one, every number that fits a relatively important moniker (1337 for gamers, 1940's for the war, 1000 for being a round number, etc. etc.)

This "life number" is new to me, but if it's anything like astrology then I'd be very skeptical. I once sat down and read about Capricorn, which is my supposed sign. It was about two pages total of info, and yes, surprisingly much of it fit my bill. However, a lot of it did not. A friend of mine read about her sign, and had the same result: a lot of the description fit her; the rest did not. The birth sign descriptions - and by extension, most horoscopes - are evidently written to grasp the highest amount of people possible by being both generic and specific in different regards, creating the illusion that whomever wrote them know what they are talking about. In order to accept this "life number" thing, there would have to be some serious testing to check if what you say actually holds true.

For the record, I'm apparently a 4. I'd be interested in hearing what that means. If it's anything like the Japanese, I'm gonna be told it has to do with death.

Back to the 1,111 deal: Your argument here is still that because a book or website says its true it must be true. Even if 90% of the book turns out to be correct, one must not simply assume that the rest is correct too! Let me be perfectly honest with you here: I have lied to a few people. Why do they believe me so easily? Because I usually don't lie, and being "the programmer" I am good with numbers and facts and stuff, making me seem reliable. So if I give someone a bald-faced lie that is not too outrageous, they swallow it. I usually do this for light-hearted pranks, telling someone a lie with a straight face and watch them buy it for a little while. This is a lot easier to do in writing, because you can't even see who's talking. The writer builds up ethos (credibility, empathy) through logos ((presumed) facts, logic) and pathos (feelings), to use Greek expressions. Without confirmation, you can't really tell if anything I say to you is true, can you? In this case it is (however worthless of a statement that is after opening up the possibility that I might lie ), but if I wanted to just lie to you I believe you couldn't tell.

I'm not calling you a liar or anything, it's just my stance that I need a whole heap of what we might call "universal" evidence before I accept something. The evidence that is presented must, in a scientific context, be
1) verifiable
2) repeatable
3) not too self-dependent
4) not be based just on assumption
5) available to everyone

The big problem with having evidence for spirits is that the supposedly only talk or show themselves to "attuned" people. These people tend to be the ones inclined to believe in the spirits in the first place, and when they have no tangible evidence left after such a "connection", then there is no material for someone like me to confirm. It's not verifiable by anyone but the person involved (self-dependent), it's not repeatable in any reliable manner, it's not available to everyone. It also  assumes that the person is right about what he/she experienced. For all we know, these supposed spirits may not be spirits in any traditional sense of the word; they could be invisible, energy-based aliens. You can't disprove that, for example, without any confirmed evidence to go by. On the other hand, the logical thing to do would be assuming that I am terribly wrong about it being aliens, because I have absolutely no verifiable proof for such a claim.

And the Discussion Opens to the Masses
(I am not necessarily speaking to Katuko here.)


I realized from the beginning that the numbers and supernatural experiences I would speak of would not be any "evidence" to most people who require a precise method for evaluating truths, which is why I chose the word "support" instead. One's personal evidence is through the experience, and I believe just by reading this message and investigating what I have introduced, more people may start seeing and experiencing the same things that I do.

However, even experiencing the same things I do will likely not convince some people. Keep in mind that, if what I believe in is true, and Lucifer--once one of God's most exalted angels--did not believe in The Father himself, what type of evidence is really going to convince some atheists? Again I say, if a god-like being appeared on this planet performing wonders, would most of you really believe in God then, or will you believe he and potential conspirators were merely using technology to create the illusion of being a god (technology that we essentially have at this present time)?

For all we know, these supposed spirits may not be spirits in any traditional sense of the word; they could be invisible, energy-based aliens."

I wish to clarify that when I used the word "spirits", I was in fact referring to angels and other celestial beings, and not so-called "ghosts" or the like. You could say "aliens" in the sense that some of them live on other planets and visit here from time-to-time, while others have permanent residence on this planet. Even if the spirit transmissions were actually coming from extraterrestrials in the more traditional sense, they represent The Urantia Book personalities in their transmissions, and their primary concern is for the advancement of all evolutionary world creatures of ascension potential--us humans and others with moral capacity. They are messages of love and harmony with each other and with God. And even if it turned out that they were lying to us about who they are or their desire to help us, there is no "fear-mongering" or the like in their messages to get us to be a certain way. It is of course desired to be at a certain spiritual level, and people will be rewarded accordingly by a shorter "sleep time" (think along the lines of a few days) and in ways after their resurrection, but others will merely receive the oblivion they believed was already their fate. And then there are others that may sleep for a much longer time (think along the lines of several years) and start their ascension career at a less advanced stage than some others, so, for example, many of their loved ones may have already journeyed far away on their path together.

If anyone takes nothing else from this, let it be to read some of The Urantia Book before simply denying it or calling it "of the devil". It is certainly different from any other book of religion (but I am not saying it is "better" than any other book), particularly due to the science and other things it contains. To find out more, you can start with its wikipedia article (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Urantia_Book), but of course you'll always want to look beyond any wikipedia article to the source material before beginning to formulate your opinion. truthbook.com is just my preferred website for most information concerning it. For those more interested in just some of the science and history it contains, you can try beginning with Paper 57: The Origin of Urantia (that is our planet Earth) at truthbook.com/index.cfm?linkID=1304 . The Evolution part begins in Paper 58. Talk of the first evolutionary humans--Andon and Fonta--begins in paper 63. And for the believers, The Garden of Eden and the slightly more literal and much more detailed story of Adam and Eve begins in papers 73 and 74. Talk of Jesus begins in paper 119. But note that me highlighting any of this is not an attempt to convert anyone to a specific religion. The Urantia Book speaks of all the major religions and does not try to say that any one is "right". Remember that truth may be found in everything.

I also realized in the beginning that all of this is probably too much at once to hold a discussion over, which is why I asked that people contact me about it. But only Katuko contacted me, and two other atheists said I should post a topic. So here it is. I am not trying to prove God's existence to you, but perhaps now some people may be able to prove His existence to themselves. I doubt anyone can ever prove something to an atheist that, in my belief, not even Lucifer believed in. Most of all, I wanted to bring to attention texts and ideas that aren't commonly mentioned to get people investigating, and to present my associated exepriences as my personal evidence for God. But believers should not turn a blind eye to Evolution and science.

It is preferred that you have looked a little into The Urantia Book (not to forget the parts on our origins and evolution that I listed above), the angel number "time prompts", and celestial transmissions if you simply wish to deny them or call them "evil". The last message I sent Katuko contained a few links of interest as per his request, and I will post that part of the message and one more link for now. I may be updating this post with more later, including more science-oriented information.


The Urantia Book Online
This is just one of the places you can read it online for free and find supporting material, forums, etc.

truthbook.com

Angel Numbers
Note that I have so far only read the angel numbers section of the site. Has ads.

sacredscribesangelnumbers.blogspot.com/p/what-are-angel-numbers.html

Life Path Numbers
I am a bit hesitant to direct you in the direction of any specific website on Life Path numbers, because I don't have a go-to website for that. I haven't read anything on numerology in a very long time actually. But I just spent a little time searching for a site that seemed legitimate and seemed to contain the most lengthy read outs on each Life Path number in particular. However, don't expect everything to apply to you at this present time, and obviously not everything can be applied to every person of the same number, but it should mostly be correct and different from the other numbers.

holessence.com/numerology.html

Since I've never visited that site before today, I can't vouch for all of its contents. There are many other websites with much broader information on Life Path numbers and numerology you'll want to look into yourself.

Celestial Transmissions
Now this is the really fun stuff. An enormous archive of years worth of messages from the same beings that are identified in The Urantia Book (by name) and others:

1111angels.net/old_files/archives.html


Discuss.