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Kenshiro, the protagonist, having a moment of reflection before
vaporizing an entire army by snapping his fingers in their general direction.
Priceless. It was the most unintentionally hilarious 27 volumes of anything I could have imagined.
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In Topic: Anime
13 December 2012 - 02:43 AM
Not exactly anime, but I recently finished reading the Fist of The North Star manga.
Kenshiro, the protagonist, having a moment of reflection before
vaporizing an entire army by snapping his fingers in their general direction.
Priceless. It was the most unintentionally hilarious 27 volumes of anything I could have imagined.
Kenshiro, the protagonist, having a moment of reflection before
vaporizing an entire army by snapping his fingers in their general direction.
Priceless. It was the most unintentionally hilarious 27 volumes of anything I could have imagined.
In Topic: A rather abstract thought experiment
13 December 2012 - 02:00 AM
Next time you try taking something out of context, don't make it so obvious by adding an ellipsis. I said holistically they are no different.Yes, it is different. By your own definition, there can be NO information exchanged. The box "blocks out all sound and light". And both sides "cannot hear or see each other". (your own words)
...this is no different from an exchange of information...
After a day of school I'm not sure I have the emotional energy left to pursue this debate. I was hoping for more of a discussion, but I guess I asked for it by positing such an unseemly question. Yes, my rhetoric has bounced off the monolith of derision with an audible "tink".
In Topic: A rather abstract thought experiment
12 December 2012 - 01:08 PM
If the question was "were they communicating" then of course the answer would be no as there was no contact, but that wasn't the question in the OP.So there was no transfer is what you're saying. You agree with McMonkey.
I think you just ruined your argument.
Two actors could perform a play without ever having to hear each other. This is because both actors have the same script in their head, and can give the correct responses to the lines they know the other actor is going to say. On stage these actors are certainly talking to each other. Now instead of the script being written out and memorized by both actors beforehand, the script in this case is being fluidly created as the conversation unravels.
As I said before, holistically this is no different from an exchange of information and I believe you could treat it as any old conversation; they are indeed talking to each other.
And I didn't mean they start sputtering incomprehensible gibberish like a lunatic, but that they had the intention to perform the ethereal pseudo-conversation that we're discussing.
In Topic: A rather abstract thought experiment
12 December 2012 - 04:58 AM
Okay I lied. One more reply for the night.
This is my candy shop.
Unfortunately this discussion crosses no such boundaries. I thought of an analogy to better explain my argument:
You type a word document on computer A. You then transfer the word document via email to computer B.
Now, with both computers having the same files, we can say:
A = B
Now, you clear off the computers and type a word document on computer A. You then type that same word document on computer B.
Now, with both computers having the same files, we can say:
A = B
So, what difference in the end? There is none. Both computers have the same files. We could rely on either file for the correct information, even when there was no transfer.
Be careful? Do children tread with caution whilst inside candy shops?Careful, pickles, you're getting into the "Is this reality or are we just imagining everything around us" debate.
This is my candy shop.
Unfortunately this discussion crosses no such boundaries. I thought of an analogy to better explain my argument:
You type a word document on computer A. You then transfer the word document via email to computer B.
Now, with both computers having the same files, we can say:
A = B
Now, you clear off the computers and type a word document on computer A. You then type that same word document on computer B.
Now, with both computers having the same files, we can say:
A = B
So, what difference in the end? There is none. Both computers have the same files. We could rely on either file for the correct information, even when there was no transfer.
In Topic: A rather abstract thought experiment
12 December 2012 - 04:25 AM
An inevitable coincidence, really.Information was not exchanged: information was made up, and is only accurate by sheer coincidence.
You say the information was made up, not exchanged, but isn't the exchange of information in its essence just "making up"? Do you think that when you talk to people, your brains jump out of your skulls and shove neurons into each other? No, you "make up" an interpretation of what you heard. The only line of connection is perception; we're all in our own little boxes without knowing it. If the thoughts that Jimbob perceived were in fact the correct thoughts, what more did he do than remove the middleman?
I'm actually going to bed. Might I see my good colleagues tomorrow.
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