Fais, the fact that you disagree with copyright law doesn't void it.
I know, but Rusty is for it and I'm telling him why he's wrong
And your example of rebranding Rusty's work is terrifying. Critics of copyright law usually don't recommend that you straight up steal stuff and pass it off as your own, which is exactly what your example is. There's a reason we have IP laws, it's to protect people.
I didn't recommend or condone it, it's still wrong to pass off someone else's work as your own, but unless you're selling it (in which case you would be lying about the product you're selling) I don't think the law should get involved, by all means put social pressure on rail against anyone who claims that your work is theirs.
EDIT: Have you actually ever had your work stolen, and passed off as someone else's? I have. Multiple times. I'm not going to name names but people on this forum have taken my art and passed it off as their own before, and I had some former friends plagiarise huge sections of multiple assignments from me. Mine were small cases but it's not fun and I'm glad the law protects me from it. Whether or not you support copyright law, you can still support basic decency to creators.
Anything decent that I've ever made is under the creative commons, the GPL or the MIT licence, so it can't really be 'stolen' and I actively encourage people to distribute my work as they wish. As far as I know, no one has passed off any of my work as their own, and the only I would actually try to protect my copyright on that product would be to stop them from imposing abusive constructs like DRM. Plagarism in the academic space is something entirely different, it's effectively a form of cheating, and that has happened to me before, I'm not in university or anything so I'm not really making anything interesting, however in general, sure it sucks but it's not that big of a deal tbh, as long as people are seeing the work I'm happy, I don't care who gets credit for it.
I completely support common decency to creators, and I do get angry when I see people not crediting the original creators of a work, but not everything needs a law.
Sorry kid but this isn't how life works. You purchase a copy, a clone, the glory still remains in the hands of the authour. You can't claim credit for things you didn't do simply because you purchased them. I've met many pirates during my time on the internet, some of them proud and some of them arrogant but never have I met one so darn immature.
He states and I quote, he is "able to claim authourship of anything that he has purchased", since the games on the sandbox are provided free of charge, this means by downloading them, he has purchased them and under this rule of Faissialoo, he is able to claim ownership of any or all of them.
(btw that's not a quote that's paraphrasing)
I do realise that I seem to have contradicted myself between this post and my last by saying that I believe that reselling something as your own should be illegal, however that doesn't require copyright, since you're lying about the contents of your product, this is now my changed view after much consideration)
Neither do you. The law represents a much larger population than a single person. A single person may decide it is okay to kill, rape, loot or murder, but this doesn't matter. As a whole, we know these things are essentially wrong, so regardless of what loose moral high ground you want to pit yourself on, your personal opinion does not effect the morality of your actions. Morality is seen as just and unjust, you simply need to look at the reactions you provoke to see which side you're on and kid, these aren't going well for you, are they?
You are treating morality as if it is objective, it is not. I am arguing my case for my stance on this particular area of morality. Just because alot of people believe something to be moral doesn't make it so.
When the law and general respect for others is considered a "compromise" because there is a threat of legal action there is clearly something fundamentally wrong with the situation.
General respect for others goes both ways, if you are a developer you should learn to respect your users rather than threatening them with legal action if they have the audacity to share an experience with their friend that you would not even have earned money from anyways.
Regardless of his plans for the YYG Sandbox, he's apparently allowing himself the right to become the sole authour of the entire Sandbox because it was provided for free, so it's his property now. I know you like to interfere Lawsome but there really is no defence here.
I did not once say that I was going to claim to have created everything on the Sandbox, I want to back it up because I want to save it from destruction so others can see what happened during my childhood, not to get some sort of ego boost.
To be fair, I'm mostly just procrastinating. If I don't do any work, he can't steal it.
Phew, thank God you have no users to abuse.
@Mods: Would it be possible to create a "download now before they're gone" topic. Where we list very important/significant games from the sandbox that we should download now, before they're links are deleted. Making sure to only post links to sandbox pages within the topic? This wouldn't be illegal.
This way I figure, Fira gets some information on what to include in his personal archive. And those owners he doesn't manage to get permission off, well a lot of users will have had the opportunity to download their game before it becomes unavailable anyway.
Hopefully this would satisfy those that want an archive without breaking any laws.
I think it would be a better idea if people were to archive everything they wanted themselves, inform me of what they have, so I can then ask permission on behalf of the person who has archived it to place it on the old-new sandbox, that way we would be able to archive far more content.
I'm allowed to be cautious when the future of these games lays in the hands of a person who doesn't see right from reason. I think I'd rather see them erased forever than see them misused in such a way. I'd never give permission for such a person to start distributing my content.
If I were to distribute the stuff without permission, it wouldn't make a difference what I say, it would still be well within my ability to do so, however, though I might disagree with copyright law I am most certainly not a liar. I really don't care if you don't want to give me permission, because when someone's so hell bent on the restriction of user autonomy there's no telling what they'll do next.
Edited by faissialoo, 22 March 2016 - 05:27 PM.