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#1 Mike.Dailly

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Posted 18 January 2016 - 08:03 AM

Can you please vote in this poll, and re-tweet if you can (no matter what your vote). I need as many opinions as possible. Many thanks.

 

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#2 FatalSleep

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Posted 18 January 2016 - 08:06 AM

Done. I'd definitely like to see this happen.


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Posted 18 January 2016 - 08:16 AM

Done


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Posted 18 January 2016 - 08:58 AM

It would be pretty nice; I could invest in a Rasberry Pi and create a cheap custom Arcade Cabinet. :P


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Posted 18 January 2016 - 09:41 AM

Not a huge fan of Raspberry Pi, but i'd love to see tvOS though :)


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Posted 18 January 2016 - 10:13 AM

That would be great..But i couldn't get the raspberry pi..As it's expensive..


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Posted 18 January 2016 - 11:17 AM

I've wanted to get a Pi for a while now, just don't have the money(yes, yes, I'm quite poor)

If GM could export to it, I'd probably try and make my own little arcade cabinet too.

 

I'M SORRY, THEY MADE A $5 VERSION!?!?

I'M BUYING ONE RIGHT NOW

 

NO I'M NOT! (they're sold out. :crying:)


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Posted 18 January 2016 - 10:41 PM

Pretty even spread. you probably should have it anyway
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Posted 18 January 2016 - 10:53 PM

Please add a "yes, playing" vote for me (I am not on Twitter and prefer not to join).


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Posted 18 January 2016 - 10:54 PM

Pretty even spread. you probably should have it anyway

 

It's not even spread if you add the first two options together, as they both say "yes", after all. The amount of people who voted "no" still surprises me, but I guess not everybody in the world is interested in raspberry pi's. 


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Posted 18 January 2016 - 11:15 PM

It would enable the release of custom "consoles" for game hubs developed with GM:S..... or just customizable game experiences, so definitely YES


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Posted 20 January 2016 - 10:35 AM

YES. Please add it. This helps program the hardware much easier. 


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Posted 21 January 2016 - 02:45 PM

I've worked with raspberry PI, I've a borrowed one at home and was made to read a book about it that I sadly do not have anymore. 

I read about this on your blog and I think it's an amazing idea.. There's a huge store somewhere Im not sure where that had a bunch of these. And it looks like such an experience to work with them. And the opportunities are endless! 


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Posted 21 January 2016 - 03:15 PM

Yes, oh yes.


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Posted 21 January 2016 - 04:15 PM

ok iv voted yes as i can see the potential to make a very lot of money in the UK with that, a lot more than can be made with the other exports, this needs to happen, if not il have to kidnap mike to teach me how he did it in that blog, then no one will get GMS2, go vote for it as i cant believe more have said no than yes, do they not see the potential here, this will open a niche that has virtually no competition so we can all make moneys. 


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Posted 23 January 2016 - 03:59 PM

I know it might align well with your educational goals, but me being selfish, I would say give it a miss. I would rather see GMS 2 a little sooner, or more bug fixes.


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Posted 23 January 2016 - 04:17 PM

I know it might align well with your educational goals, but me being selfish, I would say give it a miss. I would rather see GMS 2 a little sooner, or more bug fixes.

have you not read mikes comments on this, he has made this for us in his spare time, so it wont effect GMS 2 or any other thing to do with GMS development, and as there are hardly any games on the Pi then we could have the biggest opportunity we could ever have flushed away, so voting no or yes wont effect the things you just mentioned at all.


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Posted 23 January 2016 - 05:34 PM

emm h

 

 

I know it might align well with your educational goals, but me being selfish, I would say give it a miss. I would rather see GMS 2 a little sooner, or more bug fixes.

have you not read mikes comments on this, he has made this for us in his spare time, so it wont effect GMS 2 or any other thing to do with GMS development, and as there are hardly any games on the Pi then we could have the biggest opportunity we could ever have flushed away, so voting no or yes wont effect the things you just mentioned at all.

 

 

emm so what about about rasperry pi sales?


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Posted 23 January 2016 - 05:55 PM

Being able to export on the PI would be awesome! 


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Posted 24 January 2016 - 02:15 PM

emm h

 

 

I know it might align well with your educational goals, but me being selfish, I would say give it a miss. I would rather see GMS 2 a little sooner, or more bug fixes.

have you not read mikes comments on this, he has made this for us in his spare time, so it wont effect GMS 2 or any other thing to do with GMS development, and as there are hardly any games on the Pi then we could have the biggest opportunity we could ever have flushed away, so voting no or yes wont effect the things you just mentioned at all.

 

 

emm so what about about rasperry pi sales?

1) Thanks for you opinion - no matter what you think, honest opinions are important to get a true picture!

2) yes... currently all done in my spare time. And I do admit it's "currently".

3) Currently at 7million I believe, and climbing fast! But then...many folk buy multiple devices, and many buy for tech toys. No idea on numbers of "users". We'll be looking to try and get those figures soon.


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Posted 24 January 2016 - 02:19 PM

It would be really interesting..If i could get a Rpi..Modify it a bit (At least..Make a little console, without soldering..As i'm a kid)...And make games..But if this will happen, 2 problems will be in..

1: The price of the Rpi would be really high..

2: I just couldn't get the pro version of GM:S to export..But i would like to see a selection of GM:S games in the Rpi store!


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Posted 24 January 2016 - 02:24 PM

It would be really interesting..If i could get a Rpi..Modify it a bit (At least..Make a little console, without soldering..As i'm a kid)...And make games..But if this will happen, 2 problems will be in..

1: The price of the Rpi would be really high..

2: I just couldn't get the pro version of GM:S to export..But i would like to see a selection of GM:S games in the Rpi store!

I have an RPi and it's price is not that high... Because you can always give it another uses! So if you made a console that had an option to be turned into a normal RPi people wouldn't mind at all, and you could even sell it at a higher price probably.


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Posted 24 January 2016 - 02:31 PM

Well, i guess that you did misunderstood me..I'm not planning to sell it..Just, if i want to get a RPi for me..It would be expensive..As i'm in Egypt, the prices are really high..But i'm still interested to see GM:S games on any RPi


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Posted 24 January 2016 - 03:33 PM

Well, i guess that you did misunderstood me..I'm not planning to sell it..Just, if i want to get a RPi for me..It would be expensive..As i'm in Egypt, the prices are really high..But i'm still interested to see GM:S games on any RPi

Sorry, I understood you were saying it was expensive to sell.

 

Yes, in your case it would be expensive to get one, but you never know the future :P


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Posted 24 January 2016 - 03:43 PM

I voted yes to make stuff with it. My Raspberry Pi has been sitting around for years not doing anything. While it's not the newest model, I'm sure I could still make stuff for it in GMS. Please don't let the people voting no stop this from happening....!


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Posted 24 January 2016 - 03:45 PM

I voted yes to make stuff with it. My Raspberry Pi has been sitting around for years not doing anything. While it's not the newest model, I'm sure I could still make stuff for it in GMS. Please don't let the people voting no stop this from happening....!

I have the most recent model for some time and it's only been serving as a web server, so having GM:S release games for it would be a nice way of starting to use it more


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Posted 24 January 2016 - 03:53 PM

I have the most recent model for some time and it's only been serving as a web server, so having GM:S release games for it would be a nice way of starting to use it more

 

 

My thoughts exactly. I wanted to use mine as a NAS thing, but I never could figure it out. But making games? Yeah, I have a vague idea on how to do that.  ^_^


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Posted 29 January 2016 - 12:03 AM

how did the votes go as its run out of time now hasn't it mike, would love to know especially as my mates votes didn't appear to show, love to know if they finally appeared in the end results.


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Posted 29 January 2016 - 01:02 AM

This would be really cool!


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Posted 29 January 2016 - 04:52 AM

I didn't even get to say yes, how sad...


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Posted 29 January 2016 - 10:42 AM

I've wanted to get a Pi for a while now, just don't have the money(yes, yes, I'm quite poor)

If GM could export to it, I'd probably try and make my own little arcade cabinet too.

 

I'M SORRY, THEY MADE A $5 VERSION!?!?

I'M BUYING ONE RIGHT NOW

 

NO I'M NOT! (they're sold out. :crying:)

Be careful since Pi Zero is a way worst than Pi 1 and Pi 2, you should think about it

 

On topic: I do remember that Mike has worked on a Pi export before... Not sure anyway.

 

I really don't know what to say, I have a Pi(and GM Pro) but i don't really think I'm gonna use it for GM Stuff.

 

Cool idea anyway

 

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Posted 29 January 2016 - 01:47 PM

Pi Zero isn't worse than a Pi 1 - it's basically an over-clocked Pi 1, so all you don't have is networking really. But for using it to demo, or put inside a device... it's an amazing device as it's SO cheap.

 

Pi 2 is brill. Fast, and lots of ports all ready to go.

 

 

And yes.... it's taken me quite a while to port this, mainly becase A) I was doing it in my own time, and B) I had to do the Linux port first!  But I *LOVE* the Pi and everything they're doing.

 

Votes.... 1490 votes in total. 63% YES, 37% No.


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Posted 29 January 2016 - 03:55 PM

Pi Zero isn't worse than a Pi 1 - it's basically an over-clocked Pi 1, so all you don't have is networking really. But for using it to demo, or put inside a device... it's an amazing device as it's SO cheap.

 

Pi 2 is brill. Fast, and lots of ports all ready to go.

 

 

And yes.... it's taken me quite a while to port this, mainly becase A) I was doing it in my own time, and B) I had to do the Linux port first!  But I *LOVE* the Pi and everything they're doing.

 

Votes.... 1490 votes in total. 63% YES, 37% No.

 

What about performance? Could games like Nuclear Throne or Crahslands run in the arm 11?


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Posted 29 January 2016 - 05:06 PM

This would be a quite cool feature, I don't have twitter so I can't vote or RT, but I would like this as an export.

 

It doesn't seem really needed though, I have a raspberry Pi, and I would enjoy making games for a raspberry Pi just for fun, but I don't think I would buy this export unless it was very cheap, I wouldn't buy it thinking it would improve sales of a game of mine.


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Posted 29 January 2016 - 11:55 PM

Pi Zero isn't worse than a Pi 1 - it's basically an over-clocked Pi 1, so all you don't have is networking really. But for using it to demo, or put inside a device... it's an amazing device as it's SO cheap.

 

Pi 2 is brill. Fast, and lots of ports all ready to go.

 

 

And yes.... it's taken me quite a while to port this, mainly becase A) I was doing it in my own time, and B) I had to do the Linux port first!  But I *LOVE* the Pi and everything they're doing.

 

Votes.... 1490 votes in total. 63% YES, 37% No.

 

So 63% of the 1490 are smart :D

 

I don't know how people dismiss the opportunity to making their own small "console", making games where you can use any sensor you want (assuming that the module would allow extensions hopefully? :D)


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Posted 29 January 2016 - 11:57 PM

It doesn't seem really needed though, I have a raspberry Pi, and I would enjoy making games for a raspberry Pi just for fun, but I don't think I would buy this export unless it was very cheap, I wouldn't buy it thinking it would improve sales of a game of mine.


Same here.

I couldn't see it being too expensive. I'd imagine it would be one of those 'experimental' modules so buy at your own risk, sort of thing.

I could be wrong though, they may make it a fully fledged module if it comes to fruition. Only Mike and YYG can foresee the intent of the module at this stage. :)

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Posted 30 January 2016 - 12:12 AM

Would the Raspberry Pi port be for Raspbian or another specific operating system? I'm all for it, but I'm curious as to the exact specifications of a theoretical Pi export.
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Posted 30 January 2016 - 01:18 AM

i think it would be native and not based on an OS as if that were the case we could just use the linux exporter and unbunto and we can already do it, hopefully they make and release it for us, imagine an arcade you can set up for such a small cost and make all your own games and charge 10p or 20p per play, you would make tons of money as a lot of parents limit there kids computer time and kick them out of the house with spends in there pocket, i know where i live i could make enough to retire in a year. plus there is the handhelds you could make, but thats a bit more chancy if you want to make money off it, but i don't see a problem with selling sd cards with your game on to pi users apart from there is no where at the moment marketing games for pi so i would also set one of them up if this goes ahead.


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 04:34 AM

i think it would be native and not based on an OS as if that were the case we could just use the linux exporter and unbunto and we can already do it, hopefully they make and release it for us, imagine an arcade you can set up for such a small cost and make all your own games and charge 10p or 20p per play, you would make tons of money as a lot of parents limit there kids computer time and kick them out of the house with spends in there pocket, i know where i live i could make enough to retire in a year. plus there is the handhelds you could make, but thats a bit more chancy if you want to make money off it, but i don't see a problem with selling sd cards with your game on to pi users apart from there is no where at the moment marketing games for pi so i would also set one of them up if this goes ahead.

Can't see it being 'native' as YYG aren't in the business of writing operating systems.

I see it being similar to the Ubuntu exporter. But you can't just compile using the Ubuntu exporter on the Raspberry Pi (even if running Ubuntu on the Pi) as the exporter is based around x86 where the Pi is ARM architecture. It is like trying to make your Microave talk to your Barbeque - they both achieve similar things but the way they go about it is totally different.

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Posted 30 January 2016 - 05:04 PM

ye i hadnt looked into the linux ubuntu export to see what it was based off, just looked it up but i dont see any info on if it is x86 or arm or both, there are no setting for it for any set of arm so i guess it is x86 then, hopefully mike will inform us a bit more about it, but as for getting a microwave to talk to a barbeque then that is possible as there are now cookers fridges microwaves and a lot of other appliances that can all link up to each other and your phone LOL. 


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 06:25 PM

What about performance? Could games like Nuclear Throne or Crahslands run in the arm 11?

 

Yes..... yes it can.


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 06:47 PM

nice, god i hope playtech approve this, is there anything we can all do to get it noticed more.


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 07:25 PM

I think you can actually use the already made Linux module to build Raspberry Pi games

because both of those operating systems run on the GNU Linux distribution.


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 07:48 PM

No you can't.... The current Linux module is x86 based., the Pi is ARM.


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 08:29 PM

This is by no means a deal breaker for me, just a curiosity, but can games made with the pi export boot straight into the game with no OS, using the FULL POWER of the board, or is an OS required?


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 08:34 PM

This is by no means a deal breaker for me, just a curiosity, but can games made with the pi export boot straight into the game with no OS, using the FULL POWER of the board, or is an OS required?

Not a chance.

 

Programs (games, apps, whatever) don't talk to hardware, they talk to the OS and other APIs.


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 08:42 PM

I'll add my justification for wanting a piece of the Pi: although it's mostly a playground for me currently, the Pi really opens up the road for affordable embedded systems that could now run GameMaker games. This means you can develop (prototypes for) arcade boxes, handheld consoles with specific hardware interactions, or tailor-built interactive devices for e.g. expositions or museums.

As an example on the latter, I've been to a museum where the kids were able to 'experience' medieval jousting. Two mechanical horses were positioned facing each other and each had a lance attached that could be tilted. In between the horses was a flat panel screen. Kids were supposed to sit down on the horses and ride them, then raise their lance at the right moment to hit the opponent. The real action was projected with a computer game top-down view on the screen.

I think it'd be great if you can put your hardware and software skills together and create a unique experience. The cheap and very malleable Pi would be perfect for it.
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Posted 30 January 2016 - 08:47 PM

The Pi is awesome, and an export for it would be great. :)


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 08:48 PM

If they had a Raspberry Pi version of Studio, that be great!


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 10:42 PM

 

This is by no means a deal breaker for me, just a curiosity, but can games made with the pi export boot straight into the game with no OS, using the FULL POWER of the board, or is an OS required?

Not a chance.

 

Programs (games, apps, whatever) don't talk to hardware, they talk to the OS and other APIs.

 

 

I'm not sure I agree with that. It really depends on if the runner is programmed to be booted from appropriately. Now, I highly doubt that it is programmed in such a way, which is why I asked.

 

Have you forgotten the days when you put a game's floppy disk in a computer and the computer booted into the game? No OS required. :P


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