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#1 True Valhalla

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:37 PM

Note to staff: do not delete this topic.

 

Yes, the recent stir about YoYo Games selling out to Valve was an elaborate April Fools joke. Cached version of the FAKE April Fools thread here.

 

Unfortunately, while we on the GMC staff had Mike (YYG Head of Development) involved, we assumed Sandy (YYG CEO) knew and apparently he didn't...there was a miscommunication of some kind. Due to this the prank only got an hour of air-time before we had to close it down as Sandy didn't approve of it.

 

The staff purposely created an exaggerated conversation pretending that YYG would be selling out to Valve. We planned it, and had Mike start the topic weeks ago. It has since been deleted. Unfortunately, we couldn't play it out for the whole day as intended, but we had some fun with it and hope you all enjoyed a bit of drama on your April 1st 2013 :)

 

Rest assured, YYG are NOT selling out, and your copy of GameMaker is entirely safe. This would never happen in reality - YYG care for their customers and would certainly not pull a crazy stunt like this.

 

Happy Easter, everyone. Don't shoot the messenger!

 

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(originally we were going to use Microsoft, later changed to Valve)

 

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#2 Rawrity

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:37 PM

It's not over yet guys, this is deeper than we first thought.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:41 PM

What one now has to consider is that this is posted on what is now actually April Fools for  us Brits.  As a prank it is incredibly elaborate and potentially very damaging. 


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:41 PM

Well, thanks for scaring the absolute crap out of me. :pinch:


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:41 PM

Em..I DID know, Mike told me but thought it wasn't happening.  My fault.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:42 PM

Yes, the recent stir about YYG selling out was an April Fools joke :)

 

Unfortunately, while we on the GMC staff had Mike involved, we assumed Sandy knew and he didn't. Due to this the prank only got an hour of air-time before we had to close it down.

 

Rest assured, YYG are NOT selling out, and your copy of GameMaker is entirely safe. This would never happen in reality - YYG care for their customers and would certainly not pull a crazy stunt like this.

 

Happy Easter everyone!

 

Was Valve in on this? If not you may want to do something about people angrily mailing them about costing them money, bad business practices etc.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:42 PM

Dear GameMaker Community Staff and Mike,

 

Please never pull a prank this well crafted again, my heart probably can't take another one.

 

Sincerely,

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:42 PM

IT WAS AN ELABORATE RUSE


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:43 PM

wtf?? someone told me that this topic is also a joke! is this true???


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:43 PM

okay, from what i have read in the official topic.. which got moved back and forth between staff section and public... it was quite serious.... what i dont understand is the date mike posted it and why everything about it got quickly wiped off the public forums... including screenshots... you guys were arguing quite serious about the whole thing and it got mentioned that it is not much about an april prank..... i hope you guys tell the truth....

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:45 PM

When did this happen, and what does this mean for the company, the future of game maker?

Notice the three-letter word "not" there in the title

 

This is just a very elaborate prank. We took it a bit too far and had to cancel it


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:45 PM

Em..I DID know, Mike told me but thought it wasn't happening.  My fault.

 

Oh, right. Well...yeah.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:46 PM

Original topic in question:

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(Note that it's from March 14th, not April 1st...)

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:53 PM

Updated OP.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:58 PM

This probably would've gone over better if it was actually on ****ing April 1st. When this was first visible, in most of the world and including where YYG is based, it was Easter. It still is Easter for me.
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:01 AM

Yep, it is around 8 PM Easter here, so we didn't get it was a joke. Cruel. Made me look stupid. Thanks.

 

@Colton: You didn't get it was a joke? :P


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:01 AM

This probably would've gone over better if it was actually on ****ing April 1st. When this was first visible, in most of the world and including where YYG is based, it was Easter. It still is Easter for me.

 

The plan was for me to move it to The Community at midnight UTC, but Flexaplex moved it several hours earlier as he hadn't seen that message.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:03 AM

Though at least this gives me a chance to brofist with Takagi.

Dude, what you said on that topic..is basically identical to what I would've said if I was in the situation.....I'm not even saying this to make a nod to a certain running joke between us. :lol:
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:11 AM

Quite a while ago I have written a post on YoYo's tendency to play PR pranks and jokes. And YoYo has done it again. And it has gone pear-shaped.

 

If there is a lesson to be learned here, it is no more screwing around on the GMC or any YoYo-owned website.

 

Maybe you guys should start doing LAN parties and board game nights instead of throwing jokes like this online. At the very least, any jokes raised are better contained that way. What happens in Vegas, should stay in Vegas.

 

Instead of keeping the lid on what was known to be an internal joke, whoever moved the topic outside leaked it and caused public alarm. This is utter irresponsible behaviour and easily grounds for termination. Whoever did this should confess and resign as a GMC moderator.

 

I will be leaving the GMC for 1 month in protest of this unprofessional PR prank. This will give you a good enough taste of what it would be like had I actually believed the prank and walked out. Take that 1 month and reflect on yourselves, GMC members deserve better than this.

 

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:11 AM

Oh dear.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:12 AM

I saved an HTML copy of the original topic.

The giveaway was the statement that Valve planned to dump HTML5 and Android export capability. :P Paying good money for a company and their product, and then abandoning one of the most marketable features, isn't a business move Valve would make.

But it was great joke -- nice one, guys.

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#23 makerofthegames

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:13 AM

I saved an HTML copy of the original topic.

As did I.
Flexaplex was the one who moved it..not that it's a secret, I believe TV said that.

GG--that's a bit of an overreaction...Though, personally, I do hate every single last one of you now. /shrugs
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:14 AM

But it was great joke -- nice one, guys.

 

I'm glad most people can see what we were going for. Thank you, we put a lot of work into this :)


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:16 AM

I think the bigger issue here is that the information is still out and about while there is a sale going on.

 

You have your modules (The essential foundation of what makes GM very popular right now) on sale, and at the same time you turn around and tell the world that the modules are worthless now and that there are no longer going to be updates to the software. 

No matter how intelligent one might assume the consumer base is, if I was one of the shareholders for YYG - I would be pretty pissed off. It was a terrible 'joke' in its execution and still has potential to harm their bottom line. The honest to goodness best idea is to eliminate the entire thing and push past it before it spreads further. You can't honestly expect a bunch of random moderators with little to know real long-term business experience to understand or appreciate that perspective, so you end up with a mess.


The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
 

That being said, Happy Easter. Eat lots of chocolate. :)


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:16 AM

Was planning on writing an article up for Coin Arcade on how PR-based April Fool's jokes are more damaging than anything. Seems relevant now.

 

Its either that or they are trying to cover it up to appear as though its a joke. HTML5 isnt the most marketable do you know what your talking about? All the games they have are on mainly iOS and Android and stuff.


Dude, as bad of a PR move as this was and as harmful as it may have been, there's no conspiracy behind it and you've already had it explained to you.

What exactly is it that's still confusing you? It was an April Fool's joke with fake time-stamped posts to fool people into thinking it was real. They shouldn't have been deleting topics asking what was happening but I imagine some moderator panicked over the uproar and wanted to make an official thread after discussing with other what to do.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:16 AM


But it was great joke -- nice one, guys.

 
I'm glad most people can see what we were going for. Thank you, we put a lot of work into this :)


Oh yeah, on the prank front this one was an unabashed success. Apart from a few people who disbelieve everything they hear, nobody really doubted it.
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:22 AM

So soon it'll turn april.. And with that april fools. As discussed in the other topic, a good prank idea was to have a "GM sellout". Such a sellout would hence be posted by someone from yoyogames to the moderators first. Then accidentally at 1 april the topic is "accidentally" moved to the spambox (instead of deleted), where users can read it tongue.gif/>/>.




Now during this we should have some role playing game.. Where a discussion is based on "roles", obviously yoyogames themself (nocturne ahead of them) are proud of this partnership. They are happy and think it will bring a lot of good things. I'll be picking up the cynical negative doomsday person (Like I usually am anyways). Then others will defend yoyogames' position point at advantages etc. Just make sure there's a lively discussion.

First course of action should be someone of yoyogames "starting" the discussion.. The basic setting I can think of is currently, it can be changed etc. Just something to get started (btw make that first post asap, so we can have a discussion over a bit of time instead of having 10 posts in 1 day.. OW and obviously make the actual discussion topic a separate one.

-Yoyogames partnered with microsoft, this is thanks to a "connection" sandy still has
-Microsoft likes it to go together with the "education" part microsoft tries to focus.
-This will increase the fundings a lot for yoyogames and they will get a more "professional" backbone for support
-etc etc (we can still edit the first post)

-Now the topic (and why it is posted here for us moderators) is thatthe GMC should be merged with microsoft's developer network (as here)
-How will the moderating team react to this




Now to "publicize" the topic, we can use an undercover account; I made one, better would be if we up the post count a bit to make it less obvious the account was created for this purpose tongue.gif/>:

 


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:23 AM

 

But it was great joke -- nice one, guys.

 
I'm glad most people can see what we were going for. Thank you, we put a lot of work into this :)

 

Oh yeah, on the prank front this one was an unabashed success. Apart from a few people who disbelieve everything they hear, nobody really doubted it.

 

Except for those who use common sense, education, and logic to determine what things really are. Please feel free to rejoin the IRC channel and call everyone morons again because they didn't fall for this silly prank, that was surely the highlight of my easter.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:24 AM

Hey, I made one of the #gmc IRCers say something. I consider that a successful prank.
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:25 AM

So soon it'll turn april.. And with that april fools. As discussed in the other topic, a good prank idea was to have a "GM sellout". Such a sellout would hence be posted by someone from yoyogames to the moderators first. Then accidentally at 1 april the topic is "accidentally" moved to the spambox (instead of deleted), where users can read it tongue.gif/>/>.


Now during this we should have some role playing game.. Where a discussion is based on "roles", obviously yoyogames themself (nocturne ahead of them) are proud of this partnership. They are happy and think it will bring a lot of good things. I'll be picking up the cynical negative doomsday person (Like I usually am anyways). Then others will defend yoyogames' position point at advantages etc. Just make sure there's a lively discussion.
First course of action should be someone of yoyogames "starting" the discussion.. The basic setting I can think of is currently, it can be changed etc. Just something to get started (btw make that first post asap, so we can have a discussion over a bit of time instead of having 10 posts in 1 day.. OW and obviously make the actual discussion topic a separate one.


-Yoyogames partnered with microsoft, this is thanks to a "connection" sandy still has
-Microsoft likes it to go together with the "education" part microsoft tries to focus.
-This will increase the fundings a lot for yoyogames and they will get a more "professional" backbone for support
-etc etc (we can still edit the first post)
-Now the topic (and why it is posted here for us moderators) is thatthe GMC should be merged with microsoft's developer network (as here)
-How will the moderating team react to this

Now to "publicize" the topic, we can use an undercover account; I made one, better would be if we up the post count a bit to make it less obvious the account was created for this purpose tongue.gif/>:
 
oh thank goodness, the posts in the original topic were indeed acting at its best. haha, you had me way beyond! now i can say, good job! : )

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:27 AM

Well it isnt very funny to someone who pays $500 for this :( do you guys fail to see this or what? Perhaps the userbase should take its investment money elsewhere.

 

Edit:

 

This business model isnt going to lead you guys anywhere, people have a right to know about this, SOPA was never passed the last thing thats gonna happen is the internet being stifled and locked up like a prison.


 and FYI I still purchase you guy's products, so Im still a consumer. :verymad:


I wouldn't stress the direct connection of the moderating volunteers to the actual staff at YYG. I realize it's a poorly executed 'joke' but these kids don't know what they are talking about or have the foresight to see what potential damage could come of it. 

Best thing for us to do is clear up any misinformation and carry about our day.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:28 AM

And yet all the mods just continue to set back and laugh at everyone, instead of just apologizing like they should.
 
Edit : It is too their fault they own the site and can pick and choose moderator staff, and they allow them to continue playing pranks on us.

Get off your damn high horse.
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:30 AM

...YoYoGames needs to stop allowing the mods to toy with the emotions of their consumers...


Robert... do you think you're overreacting? Maybe just a little?

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:31 AM

Note: originally we were going to use Microsoft. Later changed to Valve.

 

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:32 AM

Well, like I said, it's over now. This shouldn't be the time or place to air our grievances with moderation. 

Nocturne is quite open to discussion about issues, and while I don't suggest flooding him with complaints, a properly written and respectful approach will get you a long way if you have some issues, just remember that simply because you are respectful and have an opinion - doesn't mean it will be followed or agreed upon. 
 


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:36 AM

Why should we respect them when they dont even respect us? And for that matter, it'd be better for whoever's fault it was to just come forward and apologize, instead the admins/mods turn their heads and snicker.

 

It's no one's "fault". I consider it a successful April Fools joke, and yes, I thought it was hilarious. Likewise, if I was on the other end of the stick I would still find it hilarious, even more so.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:37 AM

Note: originally we were going to use Microsoft. Later changed to Valve.

You guys made a good choice with Valve. Microsoft buying software for creating iOS and Android games... is less believable.

Of course, you could've claimed MS was buying it to keep it off the market (people love to hate Microsoft)... but that's just too much of a stretch. Valve is more believable.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:38 AM

Eh, I think you're overreacting, nothing has officially changed and nothing was officially stated by any real member of the YYG staff. This was all just volunteer mods playing with the forums.

The only bottom line they hurt is their own by potentially scaring off customers from taking advantage of the sale going on right now, other than that, I don't think it's that big of a deal. You keep associating the mods directly with YYG and they are just volunteers. I understand what you're saying, but this isn't the fight you should be picking.

And always being respectful is what separates a good person from a terrible person, even if you don't feel you're being treated fairly.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:39 AM

Note: originally we were going to use Microsoft. Later changed to Valve.

You guys made a good choice with Valve. Microsoft buying software for creating iOS and Android games... is less believable.

Of course, you could've claimed MS was buying it to keep it off the market (people love to hate Microsoft)... but that's just too much of a stretch. Valve is more believable.

 

This was a request from YYG to Nocturne, as YYG have ongoing business with Microsoft. Plus I agree, it was a more natural fit.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:39 AM


Why should we respect them when they dont even respect us? And for that matter, it'd be better for whoever's fault it was to just come forward and apologize, instead the admins/mods turn their heads and snicker.

 
It's no one's "fault". I consider it a successful April Fools joke, and yes, I thought it was hilarious. Likewise, if I was on the other end of the stick I would still find it hilarious, even more so.


Actually it's freaking funny.
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:43 AM

Its sure freaking funny how you mods wont let anybody else post in the topic because you keep flooding it to control the point of view, if this was Wikipedia you'd all be banned by now.

Actually you've been posting a hell of a lot. What are you talking about?
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:44 AM

I think he's being dramatic for the sake of it. Let him vent.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:46 AM

Potentially injuring the companies bottom line isn't very funny. I understand that you might find that amusing because it isn't your company or your product, but there is a lot more at stake than just "haha we didn't make a sale today."


TrueVallhala, you of all people with your self-proclaimed mastery of entrepreneurship should have at the least a fundamental grasp on this. I'm surprised you didn't say something.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:50 AM

TrueVallhala, you of all people with your self-proclaimed mastery of entrepreneurship should have at the least a fundamental grasp on this. I'm surprised you didn't say something.

 

Quote me, yo?

 

Still not sure why you try to turn everything into a personal attack against me.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:51 AM

You're being pretty dramatic Robert, it sounds like you're just mad at YYG in general. You should take a break from the forums and cool down because now you're off-topic and just complaining in general.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:53 AM

honestly ...this is the very first april prank which got me like nothing before... i so believed it ^___^

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:54 AM

I found this joke so funny I've decided not to upgrade from 8.1 to master.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:56 AM

TrueVallhala, you of all people with your self-proclaimed mastery of entrepreneurship should have at the least a fundamental grasp on this. I'm surprised you didn't say something.

 

Quote me, yo?

 

Still not sure why you try to turn everything into a personal attack against me.

 

From our conversations it is clear to me that the accuser doesn't have to supply evidence of their claim, although a quick search on the forums shows you are quite proud of your independent success to the extent that you have become an author on the subject, so it goes without saying that you should have a basic core understanding of what one would call "business 101" and as per the topic, I am surprised you didn't stand up and say "This might not be good for YYG in the long run, let's come up with another prank that can't really backfire."

Mind you, you're just a volunteer mod so I hold nothing against you (what a waste of time and energy that would be) but I am just a bit surprised no one thought this wasn't a solid plan. Takes all kinds I suppose.

 


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#50 makerofthegames

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:58 AM

See I knew the mods and admins were being biased and trying to control the point of view of this topic, and they've done an excellent job not letting any forum members speak out about it.

You're speaking about it right now, you liar.
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