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[3dFoin]

Hi guys, we're 3dFoin, we have game-ready animated 3D models like:










you can view more at our site: http://3dfoin.com

They're 3D models so if you make 2D games they're useless, but if we render them to 2D animated sprite packs (left view or isometric view for example) will you buy those sprites? And what price should they be?

Edited by 3dFoin, 14 August 2012 - 07:12 PM.

[Johnjwj]

First of all, there's a small error with your link.

On topic: I'm not sure how these 3d models would fit specifically in a 2D view. However I would definitely be interested in purchasing large tilesets or animated sprites if the quality and quantity corresponds with the price. What should be considered though is that these "packs" would have to contain a large amount of different graphics for them to actually be useful. So the concept of sprite packs is the way to go for sure. Another important thing would be to include both enviroment tiles/object sprites etc. that fit together, so that I would just have to buy a single pack per game. That or just selling sprites separately for a very low price. In my mind, the price of any 2D sprites should be far far lower than the price of the 3D models (~$20).

[cantavanda]

I think this is in the wrong forum topic...
Well, now the topic...
If you sell all those 3D models, you can sell them to a real game company, they are so awesomely made!
They look like things you see in Skyrim or any castle fantasy game.
So the whole pack of 3D models should cost around 50 euros or 100 euros.
But for 2D sprites, they should cost less.
I think 20 euros is enough for a whole pack of these sprites, with tiles and backgrounds and everything.



Also next time post in the good forum topic.

[3dFoin]

Thanks, we fixed the link. :D
So the packs have to contain enough creatures to create a game with a low price, and we should have level elements that fit the style also, these are really good information John, we'll give you a +

[3dFoin]

I think this is in the wrong forum topic...
Well, now the topic...
If you sell all those 3D models, you can sell them to a real game company, they are so awesomely made!
They look like things you see in Skyrim or any castle fantasy game.
So the whole pack of 3D models should cost around 50 euros or 100 euros.
But for 2D sprites, they should cost less.
I think 20 euros is enough for a whole pack of these sprites, with tiles and backgrounds and everything.

Also next time post in the good forum topic.

Yup we're new here so we don't know where to post this question, but it's a lil GM related so we posted it here
Thanks for the compliments Cantavanda, and for the price suggestion also, give you a plus also :D

[cantavanda]

Hmm I think 20 euros per model is a bit too overpriced.
Since you're new I don't care you just double posted...
Well, maybe you should do each model seperatly, but then 10 euros per model (when it is not solden)
But also make a big pack with all models and sell that for 150 euros or 200 euros, then that is a some solden and then more people will buy the big pack

[masterofhisowndomain]

This doesn't belong in The Community; more in Graphics, so perhaps a wandering mod will move this. I always find the price of sprite packs to be extortionately high, but then again this is someone who begrudges paying for anything that he can graft and make himself -- therefore can't help you with the pricing. They are very good, however, and I would say that a 2D (side-view) would give them greater potential in games made with GM.

Since you're new I don't care you just double posted...

Since you won't say anything, I will ... @3dFoin, if you want to add new information or reply to a point you can use the 'Edit' button at the bottom right of each post.

Edited by masterofhisowndomain, 14 August 2012 - 07:43 PM.

[newkill]

These are very nice looking! In my opinion, if you make 2D animated sprites out of these 3D models, I believe they should be sold more than just the textured 3D model, due to the extra work needed to animate them. Also, someone who wants 12 different animations for a character should pay more than someone that only want a walking animation.

Considering the quality of these, if you were to create, for exemple, 16 different characters all having a few animations, with background tiles and stuff all rendered in 2D and all contained in a pack, they would be worth way more than $20 !

I personally believe you would benefit more from your talent by adding these creations to some sort of portfolio, and offering your services as a character/environment 3D modeler/texturer to serious independant developpers that plan on creating successful commercial game(s).

Edit: Also, you should put a watermark on your images

Edited by newkill, 14 August 2012 - 07:47 PM.

[Chessmasterriley]

Hey there 3dFoin,

First of all, your work is amazing. I first saw your stuff over on the Unity Dev forums. Undoubtedly, you produce top quality models and sell them at a phenomenal price.

I don't think, however, you will have much luck in selling 3d pre-rendered artwork here or, frankly, anywhere. If a developer is looking to use 3d pre-rendered artwork in their game, they need EVERYTHING to be 3d pre-rendered; otherwise, the game's graphics resemble the consistency of a chopped salad. So, unless you plan to sell an entire game's graphics in one pack, it's difficult to find a real interest in purchasing said images. Even then, not many people want to buy the entirety of their game's graphics in a royalty-free, anyone-can-buy-it manner. Dozens of games will have the same graphics and your pack suddenly loses value.

Regarding the GMC itself, the forums consist mainly of underage users who won't/can't afford to purchase graphics for their games. While you might get an interested buyer here and there, they will be few and far between.

Keep up the awesome work!

Best,
Riley

[3dFoin]

Hmm I think 20 euros per model is a bit too overpriced.
Since you're new I don't care you just double posted...
Well, maybe you should do each model seperatly, but then 10 euros per model (when it is not solden)
But also make a big pack with all models and sell that for 150 euros or 200 euros, then that is a some solden and then more people will buy the big pack

This doesn't belong in The Community; more in Graphics, so perhaps a wandering mod will move this. I always find the price of sprite packs to be extortionately high, but then again this is someone who begrudges paying for anything that he can graft and make himself -- therefore can't help you with the pricing. They are very good, however, and I would say that a 2D (side-view) would give them greater potential in games made with GM.

Since you're new I don't care you just double posted...

Since you won't say anything, I will ... @3dFoin, if you want to add new information or reply to a point you can use the 'Edit' button at the bottom right of each post.

Thanks for the advice and suggestions, really useful, Cantavanda, Masterofhisowndomain (lol your nick is so funny), I'll use the Edit button from now on :D

These are very nice looking! In my opinion, if you make 2D animated sprites out of these 3D models, I believe they should be sold more than just the textured 3D model, due to the extra work needed to animate them. Also, someone who wants 12 different animations for a character should pay more than someone that only want a walking animation.
Considering the quality of these, if you were to create, for exemple, 16 different characters all having a few animations, with background tiles and stuff all rendered in 2D and all contained in a pack, they would be worth way more than $20 !
I personally believe you would benefit more from your talent by adding these creations to some sort of portfolio, and offering your services as a character/environment 3D modeler/texturer to serious independant developpers that plan on creating successful commercial game(s).
Edit: Also, you should put a watermark on your images

Thanks NewKill, you gave us some very important info, really appreciate that

Hey there 3dFoin,
First of all, your work is amazing. I first saw your stuff over on the Unity Dev forums. Undoubtedly, you produce top quality models and sell them at a phenomenal price.
I don't think, however, you will have much luck in selling 3d pre-rendered artwork here or, frankly, anywhere. If a developer is looking to use 3d pre-rendered artwork in their game, they need EVERYTHING to be 3d pre-rendered; otherwise, the game's graphics resemble the consistency of a chopped salad. So, unless you plan to sell an entire game's graphics in one pack, it's difficult to find a real interest in purchasing said images. Even then, not many people want to buy the entirety of their game's graphics in a royalty-free, anyone-can-buy-it manner. Dozens of games will have the same graphics and your pack suddenly loses value.
Regarding the GMC itself, the forums consist mainly of underage users who won't/can't afford to purchase graphics for their games. While you might get an interested buyer here and there, they will be few and far between.
Keep up the awesome work!
Best,
Riley

You're right Riley, and this is bad, cos we don't have any level/scene model now (ah we have statues but clearly that's not enough), maybe we'll make the sprite pack later

My first topic here and I can feel this is a nice and warm community, I love that :D Thank you all for your time.

[Nocturne]

Regarding the GMC itself, the forums consist mainly of underage users who won't/can't afford to purchase graphics for their games. While you might get an interested buyer here and there, they will be few and far between.

My first topic here and I can feel this is a nice and warm community, I love that :D Thank you all for your time.

Yes the community here is wonderful... BUT I must take exception to the comment by Chessmasterriley. It's true, that this forum has an element of younger users, and this is more noticeable in the Graphics forum simply because the more mature users generally have artists for their work. However, GM:Studio has encouraged many more serious, and older, devs to come here and I think that you'll find some of them to be very interested in any work you can produce.

PS: Nice models!

[kiiddocreasies]

i think you should add this to www.game-graphic.net you can sell it as many times as you like and people can buy it even while u sleep

[Ventus]

i have to say, that this stuff is pretty amazing, and the fact that you guys are willing to make it 2d is really good. i was accually just trying to talk to a company which ended up flopping cause they wouldnt lower themselves to 2d
im currently building a top-down action rpg with gml and my on problem is finding good sprites. as with most of the people on this topic i agree that if you made these into 2d, alone, we cant really do much with a single image (itd look kinda weird to have a really good image, just floating around with a bunch of other one, and some random person calling that a game ). but if you took them and for instance made the knight character top-down, and made sprites that would make him move up down left and right, attacking and then getting hit, that right there is a huge peice that is much sought after for games, and most games take forever because of that alone. if you made a pack with an image you created one by one, with the animations for it like that, you could earn an easy 10-20 from each pack, or make a game pack of a bunch of them stuck together, that would be really powerful for any game and youd get many buyers.
that said, what Chessmasterriley said is very true and the originality of the sprites is what makes them worth the money
(if all games looked like mario itd be annoying ). how to fix that problem though is a bit harder. what would be good is with the level of skill that you have, if your willing to do this, id suggest selling out services. have a couple good packs definitly, but you could also have requests come in, you make what they need (and since very few people are good at 3d here itll be mostly 2d, which shouldnt be as hard) and depending on what they ask you make a price, maybe have a system of how you price sprites you make for a game.
also about the people not being able to pay due to lack of money, you could set up a deal with them and get a certain percentage of the games earnings (obviously this only works if they plan on selling it) depending on how much you do for them, which with how good the game would become with your amazing sprites you could earn allot off of that as well.
sry if im rambling a ton but those are my ideas to help out.
hope all that mess of info helped