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#21 kburkhart84

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 06:57 PM

I beat(years ago) sonic 1 and sonic 2, and I've played all the rest but I was slightly older and didn't dedicate the time to them and so didn't beat them.

Sonic was originally designed as a competitor to Mario, but was made to be "cooler" and "faster" and honestly, I'd say at least at the time He succeeded, at least until the change to 3d, where things were forced to slow down some.

@11oclock, the speed was the point. I never had a problem running into enemies, because when on level ground, you can pretty much roll into a ball when you feel like it, and the main things that would kill you then would be spikes.
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#22 deathzero021

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 10:18 PM

My point is that the sonic 4 series is horrible(or at least the first one is). The physics in sonic 4 were horrible, but Sonic 1's physics were better (seriously, the sonic series is getting worse about physics) and sometimes when I hit an enemy I'd lose rings although the enemy was supposed to die.

Reason why things like physics change in these games over the years is because of the developers. the problem with big company games is that it's not the same developers anymore. The developers that made Sonic 1 or Sonic 2 are probably not working any position within Sega or Sonic Team anymore and publishers like Sega hand their IP's off to different dev teams all the time and dev teams change often. So Sonic 4 was most likely made by a bunch of recent college graduates with little experience or were given very little time to work on the game.

I hate this kind of development because i like to think that the original developers should own the IP as they did all the work. it's like an artist painting something and than having the guy who sold him the canvas take it and claim it as his. Because of this bad business, franchises dramatically change over the years as it's handed to different people all the time. People who don't know what to do with the IP or people who don't care about the IP.

IP = Intellectual Property.
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#23 Scoutaloo

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 02:54 AM

I've always disliked sonic games. I don't like the idea of running so fast I can't see where I'm running, because I hit a lot of sharp things and lost all my rings. Not to mention that almost all the three dimensional games are just terrible.

I find the franchise VERY repetitive. I mean, every game is almost the exact same. At least mario occasionally throw some new twist into their games.

the only sonic game I have ever enjoyed is Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. That game was really, really good. Other than that though, I've never enjoyed a sonic game, even though I've owned a lot(Sonic Riders, The original 3 games ported to the DS, etc).
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#24 Sonic and Link

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 04:50 PM

I did'nt now of the series until SA2:B, but have since then been a fan of the series. I prefer the 3D games, but also like some of the 2D games.

Has far as i know, the physics were fixed for Sonic 4 Episode 2, but can't say for certian that they are identical to Sonic 1, 2 etc.

When it comes to speed, i can't really agree with "The 3D games go so fast that i bump into enemy and die." i Would say that is also the case with the 2D games, given that you can't see very far.

And when it comes to variety, i can't agree with the series being repetitiv, there is a big difference between games like SA2:B, Sonic Generations, and Sonic and the Black Knight.
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#25 segasonic5

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 03:08 PM


I used to be a Sonic fan, but not anymore. It's not because of the newer Sonic games, it's because I've come to not like the speed that Sonic moves. *runs at max speed* "LOOK AT MEH I MOVE SO FA-" *runs into enemy and dies*

actually if you run fast enough you kill your opponent (boost, roll, spin dash or homing attack whilst running)


I will never forget sonic adventure2 it's so freaking awesome
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#26 faissialoo

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 03:57 PM



I used to be a Sonic fan, but not anymore. It's not because of the newer Sonic games, it's because I've come to not like the speed that Sonic moves. *runs at max speed* "LOOK AT MEH I MOVE SO FA-" *runs into enemy and dies*

actually if you run fast enough you kill your opponent (boost, roll, spin dash or homing attack whilst running)


I will never forget sonic adventure2 it's so freaking awesome

Apparently it will be re-released for the xBox
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#27 Sonic and Link

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:30 PM

Yes, there has been rumors of a re-release in HD, with leaderboards, hope it is true, since it is my favourite game in the series.
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#28 faissialoo

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:49 PM

I hope they fix the running animation. It looked terrible
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#29 Takagi

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 06:06 PM

God, loved SA2:B. I also got Sonic Adventure DX, which is really pretty fun.

Here's a question I have. Is it at all possible to replay levels in Sonic Adventure DX? And I mean re-play the original mission, not the second mission associated with the level (ie: beat it in X time)? I remember wanting to replay some Sonic levels, but without the annoying secondary mission. Just play through the original level.

I prefer DX over 2 actually. I LOVED the adventure stages. I spent an hour just exploring some areas. True, it got a bit annoying, but it was so neat. Plus, I feel the levels in DX are longer than in Sonic Adventure 2.

Sonic Heroes was a neat concept, but a flop overall. I guess it was an okay game though... just didn't have that same allure as the older 3D games.
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#30 Sonic and Link

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 06:24 PM

I can't remember if you can replay levels, but if you can, it would be trough the main menu, or entering the stage the same way has first time.
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#31 makerofthegames

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:40 AM

I prefer DX over 2 actually. I LOVED the adventure stages. I spent an hour just exploring some areas. True, it got a bit annoying, but it was so neat. Plus, I feel the levels in DX are longer than in Sonic Adventure 2.

Sonic Heroes was a neat concept, but a flop overall. I guess it was an okay game though... just didn't have that same allure as the older 3D games.

Do we just get entertained by exactly the same thing or something? I say that because this is virtually the same as my opinion. :laugh:

I'd probably play 2 more than DX on account of the chao gardens being better, though.

Edited by makerofthegames, 05 July 2012 - 06:40 AM.

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#32 faissialoo

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:47 AM

There should be like a mobile game where you look after your pet chao ::lmao:: they are just sooo cute >.< Posted Image
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#33 Takagi

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 01:17 AM


I prefer DX over 2 actually. I LOVED the adventure stages. I spent an hour just exploring some areas. True, it got a bit annoying, but it was so neat. Plus, I feel the levels in DX are longer than in Sonic Adventure 2.

Sonic Heroes was a neat concept, but a flop overall. I guess it was an okay game though... just didn't have that same allure as the older 3D games.

Do we just get entertained by exactly the same thing or something? I say that because this is virtually the same as my opinion. :laugh:

I'd probably play 2 more than DX on account of the chao gardens being better, though.

Agreed again! Although part of the reason I'm binging on DX is because I got it last year, as opposed to 2Battle, which I got about 8 years ago. Wow. I had that game for almost 10 years? Whoa.

I've played Sonic Advance 1, 2, and 3. Advance 2 was easily my favorite. 3 was a lot of the gimmick, which I really didn't like. Advance 1 was a bit too slow.
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#34 makerofthegames

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 01:44 AM

I've played Sonic Advance 1, 2, and 3. Advance 2 was easily my favorite. 3 was a lot of the gimmick, which I really didn't like. Advance 1 was a bit too slow.

Again, I completely agree. :laugh:

Sonic Advance 2 made its way into my childhood. I remember the day that I unlocked the Tiny Chao Garden. I had so many rings, I got a chao to level 99 in everything in the same day. Good times.
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#35 daman123125

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 05:29 AM

Even though I grew up with 2D Sonic, I prefer the 3D Sonic games (and by that I mean specifically the Adventure games) much more. Yeah, the emerald hunting and mech levels weren't the best, but I can safely say I've replayed the Sonic/Shadow levels well over 1000 times in my childhood. Plus the Chao Gardens kept me busy for many years... in SA2 I loved it when I got all the Chaos Chao, and felt awesome when I finally beat the hardest Chao race and karate battle.

I don't like 2D Sonic games as much because when you first play them, you can't see much in front of you, and then you unfairly run into spikes/enemies randomly, so it pretty much depends on memorization to beat them. Plus you had limited lives which makes you start the games ALL over. Basically there's just not as much freedom that allows for replayability like the Adventure games.

I love the Adventure levels because they are much funner to look at, and easier to 'sightread' since you have a much better field of view.
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