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[getty]

I can't figure how there are so many guests and a few registered members online. It's an interactive community and those guests should be signing up and mingling with other members.

What contents are they viewing? It couldn't possibly be the games that are posted in the games creation forums because very few people are actually viewing the game creation forums. If you find the statistics at the bottom it doesn't add to a lot.

[getty]

thumbs up if you think 325 of them should join us now.

[Dangerous_Dave]

What contents are they viewing? It couldn't possibly be the games that are posted in the games creation forums because very few people are actually viewing the game creation forums. If you find the statistics at the bottom it doesn't add to a lot.

The real question is, why do you care?

[chance]

What contents are they viewing? It couldn't possibly be the games that are posted in the games creation forums because very few people are actually viewing the game creation forums. If you find the statistics at the bottom it doesn't add to a lot.

The largest number of guests are usually viewing the Novice forum.

But you're right: the number of guests viewing individual forums doesn't add up. So the conclusion must be they're just viewing the forum index (main page). It's not important either way... but it is curious.

It's also possible they aren't "real" connections -- just some IPB count that isn't updated correctly.

[Earthwalker]

I didn't join the forums for a long time simply because I didn't have to; I prefer to search for solutions to problems or figure it out myself. The only reason I joined was for the GMC Jam.

[getty]

I didn't join the forums for a long time simply because I didn't have to; I prefer to search for solutions to problems or figure it out myself. The only reason I joined was for the GMC Jam.

I presume you have a work in progress if not you're probably learning how to make games with gamemaker. Are you going to release any games on the game creations forum?

[Earthwalker]

I didn't join the forums for a long time simply because I didn't have to; I prefer to search for solutions to problems or figure it out myself. The only reason I joined was for the GMC Jam.

I presume you have a work in progress if not you're probably learning how to make games with gamemaker. Are you going to release any games on the game creations forum?

Actually, I've released a commercial game using GameMaker. I do have a WIP because of the recent jam, but I probably won't ever release any games on the game creations forum. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever actually looked at that forum.

[Nocturne]

Actually, I've released a commercial game using GameMaker. I do have a WIP because of the recent jam, but I probably won't ever release any games on the game creations forum. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever actually looked at that forum.

That, my friend, is a perfect example of why the games creation forum is so quiet! We are a community of game MAKERS not games players, and as such we take more pleasure in making our games for others top play and give feedback on than we do actually playing other peoples games! As for the "guests " thing, who cares? If they are real people and not just spammers or ghost IPB figures then they'll join when they're ready...

[Rusty]

thumbs up if you think 325 of them should join us now.

Thumbs up? Why should they sign up to this site when you don't even know what site your on?

It's a help forum, they come here to solve problems, mostly directed here from google from typing something stupid into the search bar. They have no need to mingle with us, this isn't facebook, we don't give out hugs, thumbs up or lie about how good you look on your profile pictures.

[Nocturne]

thumbs up if you think 325 of them should join us now.

Thumbs up? Why should they sign up to this site when you don't even know what site your on?

It's a help forum, they come here to solve problems, mostly directed here from google from typing something stupid into the search bar. They have no need to mingle with us, this isn't facebook, we don't give out hugs, thumbs up or lie about how good you look on your profile pictures.

Rusty, that's not like you... I don't think you are being NEARLY harsh enough there. Getting soft in your old age?

+1 to Rusty!

[makerofthegames]

EDIT: I was going to pose an answer that was plausible, but realized it's probably impossible.

Edited by makerofthegames, 01 February 2012 - 12:15 AM.

[@Alex@]

Rusty, we do to lie about how good people look in their profile picture. How dare you suggest otherwise. Guests will join if they want to join. I viewed / lurked the forums for a few months before joining, then I went inactivate for a large period of time where I just didn't login but still occasionly view the forum if I had a problem or whatever. As long as the guests are real people for the most part I don't mind them being there or here or where ever. Maybe you could track them all down and ask them to join the forum, perhaps a muffin basket would persaude them. To what margin do the numbers not add up? If it's small it's probably just counts not updating at the same time or something along those lines.

[Earthwalker]

We are a community of game MAKERS not games players, and as such we take more pleasure in making our games for others top play and give feedback on than we do actually playing other peoples games!

Too true. It's kind of funny that making games is actually more fun than playing games. At least most of the time it is.

[getty]

It's not straight forward to get here to be honest, the link to this forum is not directly advertised on the yoyogames homepage and anyone who's bold enough to dig through, click 'support > community' to arrive here must have their intentions of joining or simply in search for help in the novice forum. And even that would require them to sign up.

The number of guests in this forum is a good indicator of how much interest are being attracted to GM however, maybe it's GM:HTML5 they're interested in.

Google search for 'how to make games' does yield a promotive result for yoyogames, however.

http://www.google.co...iw=1366&bih=658

[getty]

That, my friend, is a perfect example of why the games creation forum is so quiet! We are a community of game MAKERS not games players, and as such we take more pleasure in making our games for others top play and give feedback on than we do actually playing other peoples games! As for the "guests " thing, who cares? If they are real people and not just spammers or ghost IPB figures then they'll join when they're ready...

that wasn't quite the case in the past though, from what I've experienced a lot of people would participate in playing other member's games and most of the games posted gets a feedback, that now has changed of course. we are a community of game makers, you're right, and I think the distribution of games into different genre is quite unnecessary if that's the case. Perhaps the orientation of the game creation forums should be reconsidered?

[Rusty]

It's not straight forward to get here to be honest, the link to this forum is not directly advertised on the yoyogames homepage and anyone who's bold enough to dig through, click 'support > community' to arrive here must have their intentions of joining or simply in search for help in the novice forum. And even that would require them to sign up.

The number of guests in this forum is a good indicator of how much interest are being attracted to GM however, maybe it's GM:HTML5 they're interested in.

Google search for 'how to make games' does yield a promotive result for yoyogames, however.

Really? I thought I could just type in "gmc.yoyogames.com" and it would take me straight here... strange, I must have been blacking out for the phase that my browser went to YoYoGames Support and Community.

Wow, I just tried it, I must have blacked out again, I should really see a doctor about this condition...

that wasn't quite the case in the past though, from what I've experienced a lot of people would participate in playing other member's games and most of the games posted gets a feedback, that now has changed of course. we are a community of game makers, you're right, and I think the distribution of games into different genre is quite unnecessary if that's the case. Perhaps the orientation of the game creation forums should be reconsidered?

What? Why would that help? At all? What would be the point in this task? If nobody is going to play them here either way then why should the time and effort be given to changing the system that is already getting the best potential results?

The Games Forum is mostly played by guests who come and check it out, they can find their favorite type of genre, download a game and have some fun with it. If you want some feedback, you can upload it to the YYG sandbox, our own games creation forum is primarily for guest usage, although I'm sure that's not how it was designed...

Edited by Rusty, 01 February 2012 - 12:09 PM.

[chance]

It's not straight forward to get here to be honest, the link to this forum is not directly advertised on the yoyogames homepage and anyone who's bold enough to dig through, click 'support > community' to arrive here must have their intentions of joining...

Bold? C'mon... it's one click on their main page. Compare that to finding the other YoYo forums: click "sandbox" and then from that new page click "forums".

So by comparison, I'd say the GMC is actually easier to find and more prominent.

[getty]

Assuming the visitor is not a previous member from the forum.gamemaker.nl, they would have not been notified about the change of the link to gmc.yoyogames.com So it wouldn't be as easy as you described.

We've been expecting for 'the best potential results' ever since the change has been made to the creations forum and some people were right that the change wouldn't make it any better ... it's evident, you can see that nobody is active in the creations forums today and a few in the wip forums. And jugding by that it's absolutely fair to say that the past system worked best, there isn't a clear explanation but it did, it really did.

The game creation forum is for us to announce our finished games and discuss them. The posting priviledges, signature and avatar displays, topic creation priviledges are for those people who are registered, not for the guests.

[getty]

I can see the point of the genres, it probably would work well when an influx of new users come to the GMC after GM:HTML5 becomes popular. I hope it would bring in 400+ new members. It's a hint of where yoyogames is taking GM.

Edited by getty, 01 February 2012 - 12:50 PM.

[commander of games]

First of all, double posting is against the rules.

Second, this isn't facebook, its a forum for game creation help and such. And maybe they don't want to mingle with anyone here? This isn't really the most friendly forum on the internet.

It's not straight forward to get here to be honest, the link to this forum is not directly advertised on the yoyogames homepage

So? GM newbies would probably search "gamemaker tutorials" or something along those lines. The second result is the Tutorials and Examples forum on the GMC. And if they actually look through the search results they will undoubtedly find a topic on this forum somewhere.

and anyone who's bold enough to dig through, click 'support > community' to arrive here must have their intentions of joining or simply in search for help in the novice forum.

Bold enough? Its a couple of clicks. And maybe they want to check out some games or something.

And even that would require them to sign up.

Only if their problem isn't common. A quick search should bring up several topics on most problems. I only ever posted in the Novice forums when I couldn't find an answer to my problem anywhere else, and that wasn't really that common.

The game creation forum is for us to announce our finished games and discuss them. The posting priviledges, signature and avatar displays, topic creation priviledges are for those people who are registered, not for the guests.

And the game creation forum is also for people to play games, be them guests or members.