# New GMC reskinning

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### #1 scotay

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 04:26 PM

Hi all

Welcome to the new GMC reskin :D It's taken a while and thanks to the mods input here we were able to fix all the issues. We hope you like, and realise it's a dramatic change but we really wanted the GMC to sync with the look and feel of the new site. Not everyone will like it. We do ask that you give it a bit of time to get used to though.

We look forward to hearing all your feedback (as long as its constructive). Don't ask for it to be changed back, as it won't be. The dark skin is the default but to keep those who really want the lighter background, we will give this option to change it. We need a couple of weeks to get this in place so be patient. Meantime, let us know here if there's any probs!

Cheers,

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### #2 theg721

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 04:28 PM

What do we do if we can't see any difference?
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### #3 PASSOUT

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 04:30 PM

Why is it so dark...
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### #4 Terrified Virus

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 04:37 PM

Ya, it willl take a while to get use to this... But it looks pretty cool. When I go to my profile, up where it says "topics" "posts", etc. it is all white and is very hard to read.
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### #5 Dark Matter

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 04:38 PM

Yes, please do give us that option. In fact, it'd be great if you'd give us the option to revert it completely. Thanks!
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### #6 Skye

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 04:39 PM

The buttons (GMC, Game Maker, Games, Support, Company and [Username]) aren't working!
Is it just my computer or is it a bug?
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### #7 Jobo

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 04:41 PM

to keep those who really want the lighter background, we will give this option to change it.

Thank you!

*throws out antidepressants*
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### #8 Dark Matter

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 04:41 PM

The buttons (GMC, Game Maker, Games, Support, Company and [Username]) aren't working!
Is it just my computer or is it a bug?

Nope, they released a buggy skin >_<
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### #9 xshortguy

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 04:42 PM

That's odd. Those buttons worked on the test.
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### #10 teej

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 04:44 PM

I prefer a white background for reading the page contents. Please.. Otherwise give us option to choose which skin we are comfortable with if possible.
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### #11 Nocturne

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 04:48 PM

The buttons worked fine on the change but a few minutes later stopped working... so some unforseen error there...
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### #12 Jobo

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 04:49 PM

This time you've really stepped in it, YoYo Games.
It's fine that you make a dark theme that fits the theme of the overly criticized website, but you're not giving an immediate option to change it back?

Why not? You already have a functional light theme (if you can remember the days before you changed the GMC theme. That would be ~20 minutes ago).
What's so wrong with giving that as a temporary fallback theme, instead of saying "Hey. Use this theme. Like it or hate it, we don't care. We want it to be like this. **** you all."
Might be a little exaggerated, but still. Seriously? That's so incredibly unprofessional in my opinion.
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### #13 jtyler

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 04:51 PM

I haven't noticed any difference in themes?
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### #14 Dark Matter

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 05:04 PM

Apparently, it's impossible for people who aren't already logged in to do so. You may want to look into that.
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### #15 Chessmasterriley

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 05:05 PM

While I appreciate the new look, I can see how it can be annoying to read white text on a dark grey background. Actually, several studies have been conducted on readability:

1980 study:

However, most studies have shown that dark characters on a light background
are superior to light characters on a dark background (when the refresh rate is
fairly high). For example, Bauer and Cavonius (1980) found that participants
were 26% more accurate in reading text when they read it with dark characters
on a light background.

Reference: Bauer, D., & Cavonius, C., R. (1980). Improving the legibility of visual
display units through contrast reversal. In E. Grandjean, E. Vigliani (Eds.),
Ergonomic Aspects of Visual Display Terminals (pp. 137-142).
London: Taylor & Francis

Another Research Group:

People with astigmatism (aproximately 50% of the population) find it harder to read white text on black than black text on white. Part of this has to do with light levels: with a bright display (white background) the iris closes a bit more, decreasing the effect of the "deformed" lens; with a dark display (black background) the iris opens to receive more light and the deformation of the lens creates a much fuzzier focus at the eye.

Jason Harrison – Post Doctoral Fellow, Imager Lab Manager – Sensory Perception and Interaction Research Group, University of British Columbia

The fuzziness is called halation and can be rather aggravating; especially to our late night GMC readers

-Riley

Edited by Chessmasterriley, 17 August 2011 - 05:06 PM.

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### #16 Glance

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 05:12 PM

I like the theme but here are the small stuff I found that didn't look too well;

1) The text just above the ad at the top looks odd to me. The links to the rules and the search bar look out of place with the ad there. Maybe you could move the ad above the text?

2) The "Find My Content" button on my profile has a background that doesn't mach the theme at all.

3) If I change the theme to "YoYoGames" at the bottom of the screen I can't get the dark skin back. I just got a little used to the darker colors, but when I accidentally changed the skin, I want to change it back to the dark one for some reason...
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### #17 icuurd12b42

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 05:14 PM

The top menu does not work. I'm interested in my user name where a menu pops up and I can see my content

The fuzziness is called halation and can be rather aggravating; especially to our late night GMC readers

-Riley

That is exactly my problem. I get dizzy, headache after 5 minutes and even sea sick (right now, maybe I drank too much coffee)
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Posted 17 August 2011 - 05:41 PM

It's ok, but I must say it is very very buggy. You better fix the top bar as it doesn't work at all, the login is missing, which is very important and I had to go to the error page to login.
Also the profile is highly iritable to look as the white boxes are pain in the both arse and eyes. Remove all the white stuff from the profile make it gray and lighter gray for 2nd replies.

Fix this, it'll be ok.

PS: As in light gray I mean: the color 32 pixels below this text where its stated when I edited this thing.

Edited by Shadowrend, 17 August 2011 - 05:46 PM.

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### #19 tangibleLime

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 05:55 PM

LaTeX is broken - should be white symbols instead of black. Didn't you fix this previously? It was working on the testgmc.

$\int_{a}^{b} f(x) dx = \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \sum_{i = 1}^{n} f\left(a + i \Delta x) \Delta x$
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### #20 Furritus

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 05:57 PM

>.> hard to understand, the font seems bigger. I prefer the white one 10 to 1, this seems dark and unclear. im a little lost on pming and stuff too
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### #21 tangibleLime

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:01 PM

One of my main grievances with this new them is the lack of texture. In fact, there isn't anything but solid colors except for a gradient (gradients like that look insanely unprofessional) in the top logo bar. Some sort of texture in the headers or even the background would give the theme some flair and let it escape from plainness.
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### #22 daspirit

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:02 PM

To change it back, scroll to the bottom of the page and find the drop box that says "YoYoGames". Change it to IP Board Mobile and change it back to YoYoGames and you'll have the old theme. The new theme does not appear to be here.
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### #23 Lewis X

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:03 PM

Well, that did nothing for me.

Same light green theme.

Edited by Sonica2, 17 August 2011 - 06:04 PM.

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### #24 tangibleLime

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:05 PM

Well, that did nothing for me.

Same light green theme.

Try CTRL+F5.
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### #25 S-Chuck

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:10 PM

The new theme was created to match the website. This is a good thing

And while I agree that it will take time to get used to a dark skin since people are used to mostly light forums everywhere else on the web, I can also understand (for the above reason) why TTG does not give a light skin option.

Give it time. Everyone will get used to it and life will go on once again.
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### #26 Osmium

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:10 PM

After four minutes, a new GMC skin!?

It's great anyway.
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### #27 Lewis X

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:11 PM

That does nothing. I managed to get it be signing out, but then there is no means of signing back in, so changed the theme to the normal one to sign in, and it stays like it.
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### #28 Rossay

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:17 PM

This new one is far too dark which makes it difficult to read for people like myself who have less than perfect eye-sight.
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### #29 Dark Matter

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:18 PM

This new one is far too dark which makes it difficult to read for people like myself who have less than perfect eye-sight.

You can change it back.
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### #30 S-Chuck

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:28 PM

Dark Matter, that's likely only temporary. Again, last I talked to them they had no planned for an ""option" so they will probably delete the old skin.
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### #31 tangibleLime

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:31 PM

Also note that they are going to work on a lighter theme. It's not very high priority though and it will take them a few weeks.
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### #32 Duffymoon

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:33 PM

At first I liked the change.

But after I started reading this post, it started to become difficult to read. I started to squint my eyes, then I had to look away for a short time to let my eyes rest.

For me, what others are saying about the white text on darker backgrounds seems to be true.

Maybe black text on a light grey background would be better, just for reading the posts, you can keep the rest the same.
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### #33 icuurd12b42

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:48 PM

Dark Matter, that's likely only temporary. Again, last I talked to them they had no planned for an ""option" so they will probably delete the old skin.

That would not be wise. I'm already back on the old theme due to health issues.

The theme is cool but unusable for some (me). And according to some guy's linking to a study in one of them topics, unusable for 50% of our members.
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### #34 rowboat-synclaire

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 07:02 PM

i agree with Chessmasterriley; i find light on dark very hard to read and not user-friendly.
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### #35 legocjman

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 07:04 PM

Buttons don't work...
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### #36 GameDevDan

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 07:28 PM

Buttons on the new skin didn't work for me either,

but it's ok, it just changed back by itself O_o
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### #37 sabriath

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 07:30 PM

You want to know what I think....this is complete crap. I understand you want it to conform to what YYG website looks like, which is also crap, but c'mon. This looks like one of those small-time guild portals for WOW or GW, instead of a competent company like microsoft or apple (look at their sites, it's WHITE). Other places that get huge traffic that use white color schemes, just to list a few:

reddit
myspace
yahoo
wikipedia
most any other website worth looking at

You know what sites use black schemes?

mmorpg.com
manos.guildportal.com (some randomly searched for unimportant guild)

I can now say that YYG (and now GMC it seems) feels the need to align itself with lesser viewed sites. First it was the logo, and now site schemes, does YYG know that they are not trend-setters, I wish they would just stop trying so hard.
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### #38 paul23

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 07:30 PM

LaTeX is broken - should be white symbols instead of black. Didn't you fix this previously? It was working on the testgmc.

$\int_{a}^{b} f(x) dx = \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \sum_{i = 1}^{n} f\left(a + i \Delta x) \Delta x$

I wonder if this is going to keep working with people who prefer a light (old) skin :/
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### #39 icuurd12b42

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 07:35 PM

LaTeX is broken - should be white symbols instead of black. Didn't you fix this previously? It was working on the testgmc.

$\int_{a}^{b} f(x) dx = \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \sum_{i = 1}^{n} f\left(a + i \Delta x) \Delta x$

I wonder if this is going to keep working with people who prefer a light (old) skin :/

It's actually fine in the old theme. Black with a very bad white edge, in the new theme
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### #40 lap202

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 07:40 PM

my bar on top isn't working so navigating is difficult. I cant say this is better that the original.
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### #41 MudbudGoldfish

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 07:44 PM

ok uhm it looks cool I guess but only reading for 10 minutes and I have a headache D: hurts my eyes lol
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### #42 Lewis X

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 07:50 PM

I have to say I love the new theme, it's just hard to read. It's quite sad really.
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### #43 ChaosWormz

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 08:51 PM

what was the point of this exactly ?
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### #44 thatshelby

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 08:56 PM

The theme reverts back to the old one when I log in to my GMC account.
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### #45 2DLuis

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 08:59 PM

Like other people have said, won't show up for logged in users (at least for me). But I intend on keeping the light skin anyway
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### #46 tangibleLime

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 09:16 PM

Get an add-on that lets you modify the CSS of the page.

Get rid of the "overflow: hidden" style. It shouldn't be there. Your dropdown menus will now work, and you can log-in and such.
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### #47 fox5

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 09:26 PM

Got to say I really hate the new 'style' game maker is going for. The fonts are ugly, the headers and logo are badly made and it all looks really unproffesional. If the actual program is reskinned like the site I don't think I'll be able to stand it. What was wrong with it before? It worked fine, looked good and proffesional and was practical for game making. Just, why...?
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### #48 TD Games

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 09:41 PM

Got to say I really hate the new 'style' game maker is going for.

I agree, I'm not a fan of dark websites. Especially on the GMC. It starts to hurt my eyes and gives me a headache after a while just looking at the pages of text.

Looking forward to the lighter version. For now I'll continue to use tangibleLime's skin.
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### #49 Schyler

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 10:29 PM

Do I have the option to change it?

This skin is (in all honesty) Rubbish.

Edited by Schyler, 17 August 2011 - 10:31 PM.

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### #50 Fuzzle

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 10:58 PM

I quite like this new theme.

Also, it's black so it uses less energy.

Yaaaaaaay, eco.
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