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[the_recruiting]

Hi All,

It has come to my attention the lack of Game Maker Games available for the PSP. It was at the time a huge deal, GM was finally available on devices apart from Windows. Since then GM for Andriod, IOS Devices and Mac have boomed while GM Games on PSP remain very low - This is true and is backed up by the YoYo Games Store with only 1 game available for PSP. http://appstore.yoyo...owse?platform=3.

Around May last year was when YoYo introduce GM Games on PSP, since then their focus has really moved on to Handheld Devices and GM for Mac. A personal thought is that YoYo are "forgetting" about the potential PSP has and over focusing on other platforms. The PSP and Sony+YoYo had and have great potential, if only it were ceased.

With the new PSP2 proposed to be coming out in the 2011 Holiday Season, one would assume that YoYo will try to spend more time focusing on its Playstation Ports if the PSP2 (NGP) looks to be a big success. Details of the up and coming PSP2 - http://au.psp.ign.co.../1146358p1.html.

So what are your opinions? Do you feel the same ways as myself, how YoYo is neglecting the Development for the PSP platform and the potential it has? Are you satisfied with the moves YoYo is making, focusing and developing more on other platforms? Should YoYo try and redeem its PSP failure once the PSP2 is released?

Kind Regards
-TR

Edited by the_recruiting, 23 April 2011 - 09:16 AM.

[ratchet22]

I can understand your point of view... Yet in my opinion, it is quite understandable why they have neglected the PSP Development for the reason that making Game Maker for Mac, would be easier and I guess, that having the support for IOS devices would be easier.

I guess now with the proposed new Sony Handheld console coming out, focus has been moved to IOS Devices because no matter what update Ipods, Iphones or Ipod Touches get, all of the games that are made will be able to be played on any version of the hardware... PSP not so.

[the_recruiting]

That is a good point, especially mentioning the up and coming PSP2. Who knows maybe YoYo will focus more on its Playstation ports if the PSP2 becomes a big hit, just like the original.

EDIT: Added comments on PSP2, compliments to Ratchet22.

Edited by the_recruiting, 23 April 2011 - 09:12 AM.

[ratchet22]

True, but with the big focus being '3D' gaming, will Yoyo think of having the software to make games for The new PSP? That is highly unlikely, yet maybe and hopefully '2D' gaming will still be alive... But mostly not.

Note: By, '3D', I mean pop out '3D'.

Edited by ratchet22, 23 April 2011 - 09:15 AM.

[the_recruiting]

Cant agree that "pop out 3D" is the big focus at the moment. Sure some games are being released in 3D but the majority of the market is normal stay in your tv 3D (or 2D). I think it will be a couple of years until we see a majority of the games being 3D.

[NakedPaulToast]

Now extrapolate that graph into 2011, ios and android will have a bigger chunk, PSP and NDS smaller.

NDS and PSP are also a lot more inaccessible and less conducive to getting in to the market.

The sales figures represented by PSP and NDS are also largely compromised of cartridge media. Apple and to a lesser extent has infrastructure in place that works well for independent development. It also has infrastructure in place that makes buying apps more accessible.

There is no way anybody can look at the numbers, trends and market accessibility and truly believe resources should be devoted towards PSP over ios. Thats just silly.

[the_recruiting]

There is no way anybody can look at the numbers, trends and market accessibility and truly believe resources should be devoted towards PSP over ios

Not over IOS. I just believe they should focus a little more on it, YoYo have done basically nothing with the PSP Porting! Your points are true though, but over time with the PSP2 release those statistics could change.

[Brawl]

Interesting chart there NPT. I had no idea the DS was so popular even though I am a Nintendo fan myself.

I personally don't like the PSP. Not saying it isn't any good because it is. The graphics capabilities far surpass the DS. I just much rather play my Play Station full screen on my 42 inch flatscreen than a 4 inch flatscreen.

On the topic of Game Maker for such devices; I am not so sure that I really like putting Game Maker games on anything other than PC and Mac (Iphone and Ipad is pretty nice though). GM is more of a computer game make than a console game maker. I don't think they should focus on the PSP as much as they should GM in general. There is still so much to be done.

Working for the PSP though would still be a good thing. Just not something I would care so much about.

[mcoot]

I just believe they should focus a little more on it, YoYo have done basically nothing with the PSP Porting!

They do have a couple of games, but the fact is that it just isn't profitable for them to target the PSP. It has a low market share, and even within that share a fair portion of users won't be getting games through downloadable media. They'd have to be stupid to make PSP their focus.

iOS and Android have rapidly growing marketplaces where small-scale indie games are the order of the day. Of course those are the media they're going to target.

[the_recruiting]

A little more focus from YoYo would be nice though, it was such as promising development.

[xot]

Darn it. NPT's helpful graph ruined my chance to spout unsubstantiated conjecture about the PSP's relatively minuscule software sales.

[Revel]

To be honest, GM isn't powerful enough for the PSP in my opinion.

When I play my PSP, I'm looking to play high quality 3D "console like" games on the go (don't get me wrong, there are still some fun 2D PSP games). If I'm going to play some simple 2D games (eg. ones that GM produces), I'll use my iDevice.

With the graphic capabilities of the iPhone improving, the PSP may indeed become obsolete in the future.

[newkill]

Well, it's not a question of doing what is easier, it seems obvious to me, the PSP is dying and PSP2 is coming soon, so why waste more time on PSP?

[the_recruiting]

Good point Revel, there is only a few GM users who could come close to making a decent 3D game for PSP.

[Carnivac]

When I play my PSP, I'm looking to play high quality 3D "console like" games on the go (don't get me wrong, there are still some fun 2D PSP games). If I'm going to play some simple 2D games (eg. ones that GM produces), I'll use my iDevice.

Well given the success of PSP Minis it shows there are plenty of PSP (and PS3) owners like myself who are happy to spend a couple pounds on a simple but fun game whether it's 2D or 3D.

With the graphic capabilities of the iPhone improving, the PSP may indeed become obsolete in the future.

Not for anyone who likes having a handheld console with actual controls (the attempts to replicate real buttons on the iphone have been absolutely pathetic, have you seen Street Fighter IV where the virtual joystick area means your thumb covers up half of your character, or pretty much all of him when crouching?) or the rather superb PlayStation exclusive franchises like Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, LittleBigPlanet and so on. Besides the NGP reports are claiming it to be backwards compatible so will very likely be able to play PSP Minis such as the GM games anyways.

I'm pretty much only using Game Maker to make PSP Minis now. The ability to produce something I can play on my PlayStations is something I've wanted to GM to have for years and now it does I've absolutely no interest in using it for anything else.

[Jobo]

This matter has an easy answer: It's PSP. When "PSP" got included it became a bad idea.

When I play my PSP, I'm looking to play high quality 3D "console like" games on the go

Find the error.
hint: "high quality 3d"

And yes, all your points about 2D games dying out is true. We still have the ability to use the Windows 94 (95) OS but we don't - why? Because we can use something much better. So if we can play full 3D games (not that pseudo stuff, we've known for many years. Real 3D), why would we play 2D? Who wants to go from being a person in afghanistan holding a weapon attempting to penetrate the hostile forces, to see a man from the side jumping over crates while shooting small yellow dots?

No one.

Edited by Jobo, 24 April 2011 - 11:06 AM.

[the_recruiting]

Whats this, someone who wants to be able to port GM Games to PSP...it can not be Someone who enjoys playing Mini's, hmm smells like ignored opportunities for GM.

[the_recruiting]

This matter has an easy answer: It's PSP. When "PSP" got included it became a bad idea.

When I play my PSP, I'm looking to play high quality 3D "console like" games on the go

Find the error.
hint: "high quality 3d"

Why so much hate for the PSP? Compare it to any other Handheld device, its graphics **** all over any other handheld.

[Jobo]

I have a PSP. It is simply put a waste of corporate money. They should increase development in 3D games (again, not pseudo-3d) instead of making more PSP's. It simply can't compete with iPhone, Android, iPad and so forth.

Sure it's graphics are slightly better than many of the other handhelds - but compare the game prices of the PSP and other handheld devices.

[the_recruiting]

One thing I do agree on is that the PSP GO was and is a complete waste. It is down right pethetic compared to the original PSP. I thought it was quite funny how Sony decided to use the method that hackers would use to save games on the PSP.