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#151 masterofhisowndomain

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 01:49 PM

Does it suffer at all from being single player only (I am right in saying that it is only single-player or at least single-player focused, aren't I?)? I imagine that I would might get a bit lonely sharing the vast world with only myself and a few NPCs to hack at. Does the world "feel" populated?

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 01:59 PM

Does it suffer at all from being single player only (I am right in saying that it is only single-player or at least single-player focused, aren't I?)? I imagine that I would might get a bit lonely sharing the vast world with only myself and a few NPCs to hack at. Does the world "feel" populated?

It is extremely well populated (Morrowind was anyway). Morrowind was based on an island, a fairly sized one but more settlements than I'd like to count and more mods for more than I ever could.

Oblivion was trash. Around 7 cities, each city had about 12 citizens and 20 guards.

Skyrim is apparently around the size of Russia. Plenty of space to be alone, plenty of opportunity to indulge in some Assassin Creeding if you're feeling sneaky enough. Plenty of people if you want some friends.
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Posted 11 November 2011 - 04:56 PM

It's pretty epic, I already have maxed out my pick pocket skill (level 100), and it has some epic perks :D
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Posted 11 November 2011 - 05:01 PM

I'm going to have to wait for a while until I'm old enough to convince my parents to let me buy this game :confused:. Oh well, Dark Souls will suffice for another few months.


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Posted 11 November 2011 - 09:13 PM

A friend bought it.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 10:57 PM

I completed the first dungeon.

So far, stunning game... just wow.
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Posted 11 November 2011 - 11:14 PM

I completed the first dungeon.

So far, stunning game... just wow.


I am literally green with envy... My version won't get here until Monday! I live in Spain but I don't want a Spanish version! So I have to wait for the english version I ordered to arrive... I'll just have to console myself and play the Witcher2 some more...
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Posted 12 November 2011 - 01:03 AM

This is really annoying... I'm not getting a new laptop 'till January. Can Skyrim be played on a computer that could just about handle oblivion? I assume so if they both work on xbox, does anybody know for certain.

Oblivion was not trash... Once you packed it full of mods!
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Posted 12 November 2011 - 12:33 PM

This is really annoying... I'm not getting a new laptop 'till January. Can Skyrim be played on a computer that could just about handle oblivion? I assume so if they both work on xbox, does anybody know for certain.

Oblivion was not trash... Once you packed it full of mods!


I don't know about that but I do know that Skyrim runs smoother than Oblivion obviously because they optimized the whole engine and stuff.
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Posted 12 November 2011 - 12:36 PM

This is really annoying... I'm not getting a new laptop 'till January. Can Skyrim be played on a computer that could just about handle oblivion? I assume so if they both work on xbox, does anybody know for certain.

Oblivion was not trash... Once you packed it full of mods!

I'm assuming not, Skyrim uses a much more advanced version of the engine used to make Oblivion, and makes much more excessive use of it. If your PC could barely handle Oblivion then Skyrim is out the question.
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Posted 12 November 2011 - 05:09 PM

Ok. I have skyrim... bu I just found out that you need steam even with the hard copy (I hate steam!) - my computer is really slow with steam... Why must they do this to me?!! Posted Image
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Posted 12 November 2011 - 05:21 PM

In all honesty, I was disappointed.
Don't get me wrong - great game, it just didn't live up to my expectations.

Like the flying mammoths.
Don't ask, just wait until you see them yourself.
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Posted 12 November 2011 - 06:40 PM

Ok. I have skyrim... but I just found out that you need steam even with the hard copy (I hate steam!) - my computer is really slow with steam... Why must they do this to me?!! Posted Image


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Posted 13 November 2011 - 07:17 PM

This is the first time I've picked up a game from the Elder Scrolls series, and I have to admit that it's a pretty neat game.

I like the Fallout feeling(after all, they're both made from the same developer), but I think the medieval feeling is a little more interesting than Fallout(I like that melee weapons actually do a nice amount of damage, and you could just use them most of the time rather than having to rely on projectiles most of the time and worry about ammo and whatnot; I never found Melee combat in Fallout that interesting, as it never did a practical amount of damage, but maybe that's just me).
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Posted 13 November 2011 - 09:15 PM

Took over? The Elder Scrolls were always made by Bethesda.

Also, according to Steam I've played 23 hours in the two days I've had Skyrim. And I feel like I've only just begun!

Edit: Whoops was one page behind, that was a reply to Rusty on the last page but I'm sure someone's beat me to it.
Edit edit: it's even worse than that, it's probably more than one page for those with the default number of posts per page. Well don't I feel silly now

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 10:41 PM


Ok. I have skyrim... but I just found out that you need steam even with the hard copy (I hate steam!) - my computer is really slow with steam... Why must they do this to me?!! Posted Image


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Ok, I think I may have been wrong - I think I was just basing my judgement on the only other time when I played a game on steam - it didn't look intensive (for my computer) - but I guess it was. I am trying to turn off shadows in the ini file - but they won't go off! and I think that's the main problem. I already turned the graphics down to what I like to call N64 mode - so I can sort of play it. (sort of)
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The first thing I would do with infinite power would be to make myself a cave where I could look at my shadow forever.

 

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 11:25 AM

Took over? The Elder Scrolls were always made by Bethesda.

Also, according to Steam I've played 23 hours in the two days I've had Skyrim. And I feel like I've only just begun!

Edit: Whoops was one page behind, that was a reply to Rusty on the last page but I'm sure someone's beat me to it.
Edit edit: it's even worse than that, it's probably more than one page for those with the default number of posts per page. Well don't I feel silly now

Nobody else has caught my mistake out but you. Bethesda took over the Fallout series from Black Isle Studios, not the Elder Scrolls series.

And I almost got away with it took if it wasn't for you meddling GMC member. <_<
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Posted 14 November 2011 - 02:12 PM

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 01:38 AM

this game is so popular in every forum :D
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 07:52 AM

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 12:00 PM

I got it on the 12th (took me a while to get my girlfriend to back down. <_< ) and better than Oblivion? Hell yeah. Better than Fallout? Hell yeah. Better than Morrowind? I know it's true but I still can't bring myself to say it.

Everything seems so much more realistic, even the beast races seem believeable. Everybody has their own lore now and don't look like cartoons. It really sucks you into the world now and I don't even want to escape.

Also, remember this guys?
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How the hell did Bethesda get that good that fast? Did they fire all their graphics artists or something?

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 10:07 PM

How the hell did Bethesda get that good that fast? Did they fire all their graphics artists or something?

They've had 5 years to improve their graphics and computers have gotten a lot better since then...
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 10:18 PM

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Why the hell does he look like an anime character? Everybody in Oblivion looked like a messed up anime character...

If you think that looks like an anime character, I wonder what type of anime you've been watching...

That said, Skyrim's character designs indeed look much better than Oblivion's. 5 years is a pretty big deviation, so they no doubt had to make it look prettier.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 01:40 PM

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 02:59 PM

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Thought you guys might find this interesting. Possible DLCs on Skyrim leading back into Morrowind and Cyrodiil. It makes sense, a lot of sense with the new Morrowind-Black Marsh war storyline going on and I think we all know I'll now be gutted if I don't get back into Morrowind after this discovery. Morrowind is were gamer me was born. Personally, I'd love to kill something there in stunning 3D.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 04:49 PM

I've been, in my opinion, playing Skyrim for long enough now to feel I have significant grounds to form an accurate preference between it and Dark Souls (my other game focus at the moment). And it may seem strange, given the positive feedback I see you're all exerting, but I have to place my vote in inclination towards Dark Souls. It may be true that I have not played Skyrim long enough to develop a full sense of immersion, but I have, overall, found Dark Souls to be much more absorbing and unique in its approach towards gaming.

Skyrim is a big game, no doubt about it, and on total play time it wins hands down, but while playing it for the past week, I have not found even a fraction of the satisfaction that frequented my mind so commonly in Dark Souls. Killing no number of dragons, even on the hardest difficulty, has compared to the thrill of delivering the killing blow to the Capra Demon; ringing the bell after defeating two axe-tailed gargoyles; parrying and riposting to the thrust of a dark knight's sword or seeing the Gaping Dragon dissolve into a mass of twenty-five thousand souls.

Skyrim has size, detail and story, and is definitely one of the best games I have ever played, but it cannot, in my opinion, contend with the hatred Dark Souls holds for the gamer, and the level of satisfaction the smallest advancement can produce. And that's what gaming's about for me - satisfaction.
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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:02 PM

Today is a proud day for me.

Fighting off a Blood Dragon on Master difficulty, I was feeling particularly suicidal. I decided to attempt to mount the dragon and kill it in mid flight, the plan went off without much of a hitch, I got on the dragon and hacked away a bit, it landed for the final battle and I prepared my Flawless Hunting Bow to deliver the final shot. At this point, a ninja dragon appeared behind me with a loud thud, with my headphones in on a rather loud setting, the earthquake behind me gave me a bit of a scare. Not only did I miss my killshot on the blood dragon and get mauled to a point where I was chased all the way back to Solitude but I also jumped and managed to pull a muscle in my back.

I am now officially suffering a Skyrim induced injury. Much like the dislocated finger I got from Morrowind. They... grow up so fast... :wub:
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Posted 11 February 2012 - 11:49 AM

Being a big fan of Oblivion and Fallout 3 I pounced on Skyrim the moment I heard "dragon" I've probably already posted in here previous but meh.

I've clocked about 72 hours of gameplay since I got the game (on release day) I think I have like 490 Fallout 3 hours and 112 Oblivion hours (includes my PC copies as well as Xbox copies) Skyrim is the very definition of a beautiful video game in terms of graphics, the visual quality of textures and meshes is insane and the quality of shader effects just multiplies the insanity, Gameplay, I felt, in terms of combat this is, was far better than Oblivion was in every single way, the level/experience system was also twenty steps ahead (and I'd love to see a refined setup in Fallout sometime soon)

But for me Skyrim is falling short in terms of gameplay hours in comparison to Fallout and in some cases, Oblivion... I don't feel compelled to explore this insanely huge environment with all its minute detail, worse still, I find myself quitting back to my Xbox dashboard to swap discs for Fallout 3, which I spend countless hours exploring the wasteland and acquiring a horde of unique items and guns which I stash in my Megaton house.
Satisfaction may be a factor here for me, killing dragons and playing the main quest really satisfied me, but now that I have to stand in the plains and wait for them to find me... well I grow bored rather quickly and acquiring resources for smithing is time consuming and after spending years playing Runescape I tire quickly of grinding. (Especially after my high level account was stolen by some runt at school back in 2006-ish...)
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 05:33 PM

Skyrim is soulless.

Why I cant quite tell you. Yes it has better graphics, sound quality, better combat (to a point), more interesting magic's, etc.. But yet I found myself playing Skyrim with a bored look on my face. The main quests (including guilds) are all very short. You progress too fast. The Dark Brotherhood story had no impact on me, the only time I was there was while going to take/give a quest. I couldn't care more for
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. Lets ignore the shortness of the quest storylines. Dungeons are a part of the Elder Scrolls since Arena. And I've played the ES since Morrowind. They haven't changed much, but still Morrowinds were the most interesting to me, while Skyrim's were boring. Only the addition of a back entrance, so you don't have to backtrack all the way through the dungeon (imagine Blackreach backtracking), was good while I just slashed my way through repetitive waves of the undead creeps, with my op ebony sword and merhunes razor, killing most of the enemies with one hit, collecting the item I entered there for, and exiting through the back entrance. One of the most disappointing dungeons was the Bottomless *something*.. I was really glad stumbling upon it, thinking it might be interesting, when I jumped in, and after a short load i found myself standing in a lake. They couldve made a fall or something, and then slashing random creeps, losing 15 minutes of my time. Oblivion's dungeons were somewhat more interesting to me. The forts, although I like Dwemer ruins more (steampunk :D), were much more interesting to me. Yes Skyrim had some interesting moments, and I cant recall them now. Oblivion's I can. I played Oblivion last time in 2010. Dragons weren't such a big WOW to me. Maybe before the first one. After seeing him, it was boring. You shoot arrows at it until it falls, then slash it until it dies... Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Even the non-scripted actions didn't make up for the repetition.

Also one more word. Consolitis.

I can talk about this all day, but for me Oblivion and Morrowind are way better than Skyrim.

I'd also like to tell that removal of many older enchantments and spells is a degradation in the Elder Scrolls lore, continuing this way we will have a fireball and a freeze spell in TES 7.
Also the great big story that we got a entirely brand new engine is just a lie, it is still the old engine (that doesn't look fantastic I must add), just somewhat improved for graphic display. I still can't see things clearly 100m ahead of me, the textures in LOD are really really bad with dark spots everywhere, I still can't sometimes "climb" a valley while I can climb a 87 degree slope 2 meters to the left, NPC's still shout the same cries over and over again, NPC's have blocky faces (I've seen more poly's in minecraft).... et cetera, et cetera...

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 12:39 AM

Skyrim is soulless.

I agree 100%. It misses body language and face geometry acting. Just walk past everyone and skip the dialog and conversations. It'll be funnier.

 

Anyway, just fixed that Optimus Prime issue this morning..  :teehee: so I started playing a modded Skyrim.

I'm creating a archer character that has the ability to smith everything. She's also skilled in using two handed blades and has good speech craft to get away with stealing.

The face preset was just the default breton female with some modded hair. Thought Mercenary armor looked the coolest on her.

 

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My favorite style of combat is going stealth and aim for the heads every time. Even when shooting at dragons.

Then when they get too close, I switch over to two handed blades to finish them off. What's your character profile, when you play Skyrim?


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 07:09 AM

A 100 mods? Nice! Your char looks like the warrior type. Can a Khajit become a wereworlf at the Companions? xD

Enb looks nice man. Default Skyrim lighting isn't the best. I'm going for saturated blue skies, soft shadowing and skin shader only. The face of characters will look better with that last one.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 05:10 PM

Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim — still better then TESO.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 06:39 PM

Yeah. But I still like some things about Oblivion too. It's the colors, the water reflection with obge liquid water and Skingrad.


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Posted 19 June 2014 - 06:44 PM

Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim — still better then TESO.

 

And that's not exactly saying a lot about either product


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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:18 PM

Morrowind and Oblivion are superior in every aspect, except in the amount of polygons and texture resolutions (vanilla). Skyrim and the other game we won't name are based on small 30 minute unrelated quests that are like in most eastern-based grindfest MMO's, consisting of entering a random dungeon and fighting your way through some enemies in order to retrieve an item. After that you (what luck!) always find a shortcut-secret-passage, no matter how small the dungeon is, to the beginning of the instance so that console gamers don't need to backtrack since it is not casual to do so. Apart from having the same lore, Skyrim felt nothing like Oblivion, and even less like Morrowind. If anyone played these games, you will understand that Skyrim has no soul and you won't experience those moments. Since I only played the latest game for about 30 minutes (even though I could have played it for 72hrs) I made it outside the prison, and with the sword and the automatic aiming bow!!! I ran around a small battlefield for 2 minutes before going Alt+F4 and quickly uninstalling the game before it corrupts my Oblivion savegames. The game again had the lore, but the gameplay was pathetic. I later watched two hours of gameplay via Youtube, when the game came out and I was glad I didn't spend 60+20+15 per month euros to play it. The Elder Scrolls series are rapidly going casualish and started aiming towards the facebook and console users (Are we going to have Zynga buy Bethesda soon? or Kawaii Elder Scrolls about managing your baby pet farm-clinic tomorrow?). It stopped being a fully fledged hardcore RPG and started being too friendly towards the users! I remember a time when I had to WALK for a hour (No, not in DayZ) to get somewhere just because fast-travel wasn't an option. It was a fun hour, no matter how you put it.


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 01:08 PM

I agree with everyone's opinion here.

Yes the game looks very good. I really recommend the saturation boost on nexus.

The game actually has a lot of color but is desaturated by default. Now the default lighting.. it's bad. Also the eye adaption is annoying and ugly.

For example, if you look at the human faces. Human skin should never lit up like that. Skin let's light through and gets a red tone and less deep shadows.

When you look at the ears for example, they should be more red because more light shines through.

This is where enb goes in and does really well. But at the cost of a ridiculous amount of fps. So I can't play it with enb. And I'm not planning to until a couple of years pass and I get a better pc.

 

But man.. this game misses out on a lot of stuff. I just beat Alduin with ease. Both times battling him, I got to a save distance and shot at him with all arrows I bought.

Then he just disappeared and everyone walked away like nothing special had happened. It was really anti-climatic.

 

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Then I spawned back to the throat of the world to see a dragon party of some kind. And went back to Whiterun to see if there was a party too and all the npc's said was that there still was a war going on.

Wtf is this really the end of the main quest?

 

Also, thought I'd finally buy a house in Solitude because I haven't owned one the entire game.. But I didn't like it. Even with it's upgrades, it looked so cold and not cozy. The lights there were white instead of warm.

There was only one weapon rack to put two weapons in and I thought; "What's the point of owning a house and not liking it?" So I ended up reloading the game where I didn't bought the house. lol

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Skyrim doesn't have that "soul" Oblivion had in that way. Oblivion was cozy and I loved to own a house in Skingrad.

One of the moments in Skyrim I thought had a bit of soul were these;

 

"After not inviting Lydia to follow me, and returning to Whiterun after weeks, she bought me a bottle of alto whine and said; here, I hope this'll change your mind about me.." Invited her on one quest after that.

I just don't like followers getting my hitpoints to spend on skills.

 

"Not playing tag with kids and getting them to say; You adults are all so boring! Also the girl that wanders around Windhelm." Got me thinking about how innocent they're actually are.

"Bards collage speech and after party were you can grab food and drinks for free." Thought it was fun.

"Jarl of Whiterun lost the battle against me and the Stormcloak and said; And you, a Storm Cloak? I Thought better of you." Made me sad a bit because I liked him as a jarl much more than that other crappy old guy.

 

Yes this game feels empty is some ways. I hope modders step up and fix this eventually. Adding some body language animations and expressions to npc's to make them more lively. Because right now, it feels like you, the main character in the game, is the only person that actually matters.

 

Another thing you could ask yourself is; "Why did Skyrim need such a big world?" It could have been perfectly fine if it was smaller and didn't have fast travel.

For example, quests tend to send you from one place to the otherside of the whole map. Why is that?


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 02:20 PM

I tend not to fast travel. I like the sense of adventure that Morrowind had.

Yeah me too but Skyrim has a lot of annoying locations where you can only reach the point from one road. So each time I ended up questing near that place I fast traveled to a nearby location.

 

And modders HAVE stepped up and fixed it. Have you seen any of MMOxReview's weekly mod reviews? I remember seeing "World eater Beater". Looked entertaining.

Nah, I think falling into Alduin's stomach looks dumb. It's not even showing you're being eaten.

 

Actually going to get a vanilla install of skyrim and run on barebone mods, just for nostalgia when i had the xbox copy and finished every quest.

Okay. I never liked Skyrim's vanilla estheticss but vanilla gameplay is fine.

 

He isn't my main character, but yes, he is a warrior :D My main character is actually an archer :D

Haha so it's one of these followers. Being archer is most fun, right?


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 09:16 PM

I added a mod called convenient horses. It really adds something great to Skyrim. "Whistle to call your horse."

Even adds a funny dialogue option to practice the whistle first on npc's. Creating some hilarious and awkward moments.  :teehee:

One time I was practicing on a npc, when he shocked, he fell of a mountain and died.


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