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[poetkathi]

This is a great puzzle game. Haven't made it past the first level yet but it will be fun and challenging. I can see I'll be spending many hours on this in the future. I also downloaded extreme physics. I can think of a number of game ideas where this will be an added bonus. thanks for both.

poetkathi

[poetkathi]

I've actually managed to get to level six! Doubt my solutions are the easiest or use the fewest pieces but I've solved them. I am looking forward to playing this game to the very end. Excellent game!

When I get time to work on the game ideas where extreme physics will be used, I'll PM you. From what I've seen in the Machine, there are several things I've wanted to do that I'll now be able to do. Thanks for taking the time to make both The Machine and Extreme Physics available to play or use.

poetkathi

[tizzio]

:Q___ Amazing!

[GeordieShore]

Is it possible to see the source code for this game Maarten? It would help us massively for our university project.

It is similar in principle: create a course using objects but in our case the ball is launched in a direction that the player chooses to get it into a cup.

Your interface is just what we need as well!

We are pretty much beginners in game maker....

Think angry birds but with the object placement mechanic...

[Maarten Baert]

I don't really mind releasing the source code - in fact I've been thinking about doing this for some time. However, I don't think it's right to use this for a university project. There's nothing wrong with copying code from open source projects (or just figuring out how they work so you can use the same method), but it's not something you should do for a university project, IMO. After all the goal of these projects is to allow students to show what they are capable of. You can use things like scripts or libraries to make your life easier - there's no need to reinvent the wheel - but if your project is about creating a game, you shouldn't be using the source code of another game. I would consider that cheating, even if you're just using the code as reference material.

Besides, if you are indeed a beginner, don't you think a game like this is a bit too complicated for your first game? Creating The Machine was a challenge for me even though I've used GM for many years. Even if you have lots of experience programming in other languages, it will still take a few months just to get familiar with GM and all its weird quirks. I think you should really start with something less complicated.

[avidichard]

Absolutely ingenious! I love the game, its challenges and the idea. Not too much color but, you made me love Mechano. Very well made.

Down point: When placing an object, you can't go through walls, you need to move arround them which is a bit tiresome but that's minimal, the game and interface is really well made and professional.

Congradulations!

David Richard

[ramses12]

0 parts: Elevator,
1 part: Go up, Minimal, Frozen Item, Lol u died.
2 parts: Items, Frozen Motor, Spring, Vertical catapult, Critical Timing.
3 parts: Catapult

Let's see:
Elevator: 0 parts? What do you mean 0 parts? 0 parts is leaving the level as it is, which I'm pretty sure doesn't finish the level I did it with 4 but I'm sure there's room for less.
Go up: 1 part... go ahead, show that video. That bloody level took me 10 parts.
Minimal: 1 part - of course
Frozen item: 1 part - yep, that one's pretty easy. Just block the way.
Lol u died: 1 part - same here. Also lol u died again - 1 part too./
Items: 2 parts - are you sure you don't mean 3? You really need one part to fill the second gap (first gap is filled with big item), and two to fill the last gap.
Frozen Motor: 2 parts - that's crazy. I did it in 5. I guess you actually used that motor. With 2 parts and motor I get stuck on that static gripping thing.
Spring: 2 parts - 3 here. Maybe it's possible with a lot of work, but I just can't get the ball to bounce harder.
Vertical catapult: 2 parts - Did it with 5. I give up on this one.
Critical timing: 2 parts - Nah that's impossible.
Catapult: 3 parts - Neat. I bet you worked hard at it. I gave up at 4.

Other low-cost levels: More antigravity in 2 parts, more items in 1, another frozen item & motor & antigravity catapult in 1 (but that's easy).

Brilliant game by the way.

Edit: Finally got frozen motor working with 2 parts. Thanks for claiming it's possible.

Edited by ramses12, 14 September 2012 - 12:19 PM.

[Qon]

So I have a vista version .MSWMM file, which is that home movie maker program working file. Too bad I have a XP and a win7 qomputer now so I qant open it. But I have the save file so I qan make a new movie
Edit: Now I made a new video. Where should I upload it? Too bad win7 movie maker qan't qrop the video. 3/4th of the image is black from fraps trying to make a full screen video...

Let's see:
Elevator: 0 parts? What do you mean 0 parts? 0 parts is leaving the level as it is, which I'm pretty sure doesn't finish the level I did it with 4 but I'm sure there's room for less.

Well 0 parts is possible. 0 parts means that the end screen shows 0 parts used. As simple as that.

Go up: 1 part... go ahead, show that video. That bloody level took me 10 parts.

Well my solution is better, but it's a bit unstable. If you wait too long before you hit "run" it will qollapse xD

Lol u died: 1 part - same here. Also lol u died again - 1 part too./

My LUDA uses 4 parts :Q
Gotta fix it!

Items: 2 parts - are you sure you don't mean 3? You really need one part to fill the second gap (first gap is filled with big item), and two to fill the last gap.

Nah, it is 2 parts. You are doing it wrong q:
Very very wrong

Spring: 2 parts - 3 here. Maybe it's possible with a lot of work, but I just can't get the ball to bounce harder.

Nether qould I. My ball basically doesn't bounce At All. But it is still possible.

Vertical catapult: 2 parts - Did it with 5. I give up on this one.

That's just balancing, nothing fancy here. (My other "impossible" solutions are quite fancy)

Critical timing: 2 parts - Nah that's impossible.

Take it back! Very possible, very simple design and very hard to find

Catapult: 3 parts - Neat. I bet you worked hard at it. I gave up at 4.

It's neat and simple

Edit: Finally got frozen motor working with 2 parts. Thanks for claiming it's possible.

Glad to help

Edited by Qon, 16 September 2012 - 02:25 AM.

[ramses12]

t>> Now I made a new video. Where should I upload it? Too bad win7 movie maker qan't qrop the video. 3/4th of the image is black from fraps trying to make a full screen video...
Youtube? :P Try VirtualDub, it's a good tool for video editing, way superior to MovieMaker. Also CamStudio might be a solid rival to Fraps. From experience, video recording software tents to differ in behavior from one PC to another.

>> Well 0 parts is possible. 0 parts means that the end screen shows 0 parts used. As simple as that.
Oh, I forgot it was possible to move the anti-gravity item. Now I did it after a lot of moving that thing around. So smooth :)

Still trying on the others.

[Edit]
>> 4 part Timing
Did it now. Old was 5. Really easy but I didn't pay attention to that level before.

>> 5 part Very long bridge
I lack the amount of long parts to do this one. Used 8 little ones. But I guess it's not that hard.

>> 8 part impossible
Doh.

[Edit]
>> Catapult: 3 parts - Neat. I bet you worked hard at it. I gave up at 4.
>> It's neat and simple ;)
Did it. Nothing special, just trying over and over again until a good angle is met.

Edited by ramses12, 16 September 2012 - 10:29 AM.

[Nediradesigns]

Absolutely loving this game

I do hope you release the source. I am sure many of us would learn a lot from gamemaker by your example.

[Qon]

My qomputer with the video files has no internet right now. The network qard is malfunctioning.
But i fixed my LUDA so that it uses 1 part. I have to be the worlds best at this so I'm trying to improve some more designs
Most of my stuff was done 2 years ago :Q Took a long time for someone to notice my qomment. The fight qontinues ramses q:

[ramses12]

>> Well my solution is better, but it's a bit unstable. If you wait too long before you hit "run" it will qollapse xD
As far as I know,you can't run the simulation while the parts are moving.

>> Nah, it is 2 parts. You are doing it wrong q:
>> Very very wrong
My initial plan to approach this was detouring the ball to left, so that it falls on the bottom platform. But as I needed 1 part to bring it back on the road, and the big block + one of the triangles to derail it, crossing the final gap is still not doable with just 1 part and 2 items. Am I still doing it wrong?

What's your score for others?

[Qon]

As far as I know,you can't run the simulation while the parts are moving.

That is as far as you know. You need to know further It doesn't matter if it moves, as long as it moves slow enough xD.

My initial plan to approach this was detouring the ball to left, so that it falls on the bottom platform. But as I needed 1 part to bring it back on the road, and the big block + one of the triangles to derail it, crossing the final gap is still not doable with just 1 part and 2 items. Am I still doing it wrong?

It is possible to do it like that. My all my qomplex solutions depend on the Qonstruction being unstable (inqlusive) or balanced pixel perfect to eliminate the need of parts. Why use 2 beams when you can have one that moves from location 0 to location 1?
1 beam to get it back on the low platform, 1 to let it qross the gap. Use free wood blocks wisely.

>>What's your score for others?
I've basically mentioned all the qomplex solutions I think? The rest are of qourse just the bare minimum (mostly) but since I thought it was obvious I have the perfect score for those also I didn't mention them.
All solutions in order. 10 on each row.
6 5 4 4 11 1 2 1 1 1
4 1 3 2 2 3 2 3 1 0
1 6 1 2 2 5 1 4 2 8

>>>> 5 part Very long bridge
>>I lack the amount of long parts to do this one. Used 8 little ones. But I guess it's not that hard.
You'll see when I get the video up if it's that simple Though it's not as "impossible" as some others.
And if your solutions were as good as my solutions you wouldn't have any shortage of beams xD

I want more levels!
please? The Machine 2 is demanded by your fans, Maarten!

[ramses12]

>> Why use 2 beams when you can have one that moves from location 0 to location 1?
I know, that's the only thing I tried. It's just so hard * I'll keep trying *

6 5 4 4 11 1 2 1 1 1
4 1 3 2 2 3 2 3 1 0
1 6 1 2 2 5 1 4 2 8

Yeah, pretty much the same here, except for 7 (yet), 15 (I probably have to get a beam to swing the proper way and carry the ball to the target) and most of the hard levels.
Not sure how you did maze in 4, but probably in another way than I did (still 4). Did you get the ball to the Γ platform with 2?
[Edit] Marked in red the ones at which you're ahead of me.

>> And if your solutions were as good as my solutions you wouldn't have any shortage of beams xD
I did some of the red levels with an exaggerated amount of beams... in the easy levels I only used 3 longest ones. I guess I'll try redesigning the long and very long bridges with fewer parts (at the first time of building them, I didn't care too much of numbers, but rather equalizing the amounts, so I assembled lots and lots of little ones).

[Edit] 6 long bridge. Indeed, VLB in 5- doesn't look too easy at the first sight...

>> I want more levels!
I agree! Or at least a level editor...

[Edit] Critical timing: I'm so close it's frustrating...

Edited by ramses12, 26 September 2012 - 09:36 AM.