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#1 Evano

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 10:12 AM

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#2 trevuar25

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 09:05 PM

not bad stuff, hopefully you will get some people requesting your music within the day.

*BUMP* (because I hate it when I get 0 responses, and it's not fun!!) :)
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#3 Evano

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 09:44 PM

Ooo thanks. Already working with one at the moment :)

#4 krele

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 12:27 AM

Hey, I've have a request for you. I found a fitting music for my game on the inernet, but I'm not sure who the composer is, so I can't give proper credit. On the other note, I don't know is the song used in some other project, and I don't really like to mess with copyright laws. The link to the song is:
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Also, the song is 3:08 in length, but I will be more than happy if it was half that long. 1:20 would do the job. I just want you to... remix the version a bit, or create your own song similiar to this one. Will be much appreciated, and credit will be given.

On the other note, I have another request. I've been thinking about composing some musc on my own, and I find self teaching it troublesome. If you have some time, maybe you could lead me to a proper software to use, and teach me some basics about it. PM me your msn in case you have one.

Thanks in advance! :lol:ž

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Thanks! Wonderful job done! I don't know why is this topic falling down on the list, despite how skillful the composer is...

Edited by krele, 11 January 2009 - 07:07 PM.

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#5 Evano

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 10:05 PM

Ooo thanks. Enjoy the song :)

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:40 PM

Ooo thanks. Enjoy the song :(

By the way, what about credits? I wanna credit you, but I don't know what to write. Just Evano, or?
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#7 Evano

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 10:22 PM

Putting Evano in the credits will do :(.

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 07:05 AM

Here's my request, If you can make some cool "action" music like for a shooter that would be great. The theme is more like "Fast Paced" like those cool music in action movies/games etc which will last for about 2-3mins, up to you and my second one is another music but this time its also "action" but kinda for a zombie hunting theme or those undead theme or ghostly, something like that which will be my main menu and lasts for about 1 and a half mins. Would they be too hard? But I think your talent is great and shouldn't be too hard.

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#9 Evano

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 07:26 AM

Yep I think I can do those. I'll be able to give it to ya in about 2 days ( have work tomorrow and I'll probably be busy with another song today). ;)

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 11:12 AM

Doot doot. here's the song for the fast paced song thingy: Attack! Still working on the zombie tune though.

#11 daman123125

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 01:18 AM

I have two songs need to be done:
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Genre: Orchestra
Sub Genre: none
Mood: sad
Melody: Melody that goes up
Length: 1:30
looped: yes
What instruments etc: Violin for the melody, and Bass for the background
Tempo (speed of the song): Slow
More Information: Sad song in a forest, melody gets a little faster as the song goes.
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Genre: Band
Sub Genre: none
Mood: anxious
Melody: chord progression
Length: 1:00
looped: yes
What instruments etc: Clarinet for melody, trombone and tuba in background
Tempo: fast
More Information: A nice, anxious song in a castle
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Thanks a lot when you're done with these songs! Credit will be given to you. :)
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Posted 18 January 2009 - 03:16 AM

@Dagarn0rth: here's the uh other song that you've requested. Basically i just used the same melody as the other song but changed it so it's more uh laid back and slow >.>... here ye goes:Slow Like A Zombie

@daman123125: I'll get right on it :). Also would you like it to be midi or mp3?

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 04:38 AM

@daman123125: I'll get right on it :). Also would you like it to be midi or mp3?

I prefer MIDI, but if you can't work with it, mp3.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 01:47 AM

here's a song for the first request:I'm A Tree Man
Didn't turn out how I expected though >.>.... Anyways working on the 2nd request now :D

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 02:31 AM

OMG, this song is perfect! Thanks a lot for it!
Can't wait to see the next song finished! :D
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 09:32 AM

Weee here's something I quickly did since I was busy with other things:Laughing At Triplets
Basically using a triplet sort of a beat and stuff ;). Hope this works :P

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:03 PM

Wow! It sounds really awesome! Thanks a lot, Evano! You're going in my credit list! :(
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#18 TheBlackLamb

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 03:21 AM

I am making a game with a choice of music, so I want multiple composers making the music for different music styles, I currently have: pop, funk.

This is what I can say:

Genre: rock
Mood: funky pop rock
what its for: arcade game as viruses taking over a body
Speed: lots of fast instruments, a couple of long notes, and a lot of SFX
Length: 3-4 parts 4:00+
looped: YES
file format: anything BUT .mp3 (they don't download on my laptop ^_^ .
Other: I want it to have an epic feel to it, but keep it happy (apparently evil viruses smile ^_^ )

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#19 Evano

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 11:06 PM

Ahhh shizzle. Not mp3 now would .wav do?

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 01:00 AM

Ahhh shizzle. Not mp3 now would .wav do?


MIDI is better, but WAVE is fine ^_^

P.S. joke: I meant FINED
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Posted 24 January 2009 - 03:13 AM

Ahhh shizzle. Not mp3 now would .wav do?


MIDI is better, but WAVE is fine :)

P.S. joke: I meant FINED

Ahhh poop. Wav file is like 33mb and i can't upload it xD. Would a wma file do? Plus the song doesn't sound great as a midi xD.

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 11:55 PM

Ahhh shizzle. Not mp3 now would .wav do?


MIDI is better, but WAVE is fine ::lmao::

P.S. joke: I meant FINED

Ahhh poop. Wav file is like 33mb and i can't upload it :D . Would a wma file do? Plus the song doesn't sound great as a midi xD.

list of possible files: WAV AIFF MIDI FLAC OGG but if those won't work, then do a WMA -_- .
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#23 human_aft3r_all

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 12:12 AM

I would very much like it if you could help me, I am looking for the following:

Genre: Orchestral
Sub Genre: electronic and blues
Mood: Like a dirge, but very intense.
Melody, probably an e-minor scale (not necessarily) lilting, but then very pulsing intense, but slow percussion and bass sounds. speed in the treble can increase with the bass following. Think futuristic, but a future that holds on to many 19th and 20th century musical concepts.
Length 2 minutes perhaps.
looping: yes, but veery gently. it can be clear that the song is over but a single cello could sustain a note for a few seconds before the song starts over, holding that same cello note.
Strings are very good, also creative synth sounds. It would be reeealy neat if there was a way to have a harmonica without it clashing, a short solo would be great. Guitars, accoustic bass and doublebass. Anything that sounds good.
Tempo is slow, have gracenotes and a blues swing to it, but not too heavy.
You can see it is very diverse in music and will have heavy classical influence but incorporate blues elements too.

It is a huge challenge, but if you feel up to it, it would be beautiful. Also, it may be fun to incorporate broken voice tracks and beats kin to faboy slim and the chemical brothers if you are at a loss for electronic elements.
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#24 Evano

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 12:41 AM

@BlackLamb:Rock. Hope this works :D

@human after all: Oooo this one is going to be interesting to compose. Expect a song in 2 days hopefully ::lmao::

#25 Marcus Derekus

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 12:47 AM

http://www.nch.com.au/switch

This will allow you to convert your file to almost anyhting you'de like, For example ogg. :D
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I Compose music for SERIOUS games/projects of any sort for FREE. For samples of my work check here

If you are interested then PM me

or email me at Colburn.b.hayden@gmail.com

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 12:57 AM

Ahh cool thanks :D

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 04:38 PM

http://www.nch.com.au/switch

This will allow you to convert your file to almost anyhting you'de like, For example ogg. ::lmao::

You can also just open it with audacity and export it how you like it -_-

BUT a wma wont work with audacity :D .
BUT that program can't do .MIDI, and that's want I need (and neither can Audacity). ::lmao::

do you know anything else that will work for .midi?

Edited by TheBlackLamb, 25 January 2009 - 05:57 PM.

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#28 TheBlackLamb

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 04:43 PM

@BlackLamb:Rock. Hope this works ::lmao::

@human after all: Oooo this one is going to be interesting to compose. Expect a song in 2 days hopefully ::lmao::

Thank you :D , but could I change the name to something more creative? (like generock is what I'm thinking)
if not, that's fine B)

I really liked it -_-

Edited by TheBlackLamb, 25 January 2009 - 05:27 PM.

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#29 whgoss

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 06:09 PM

Hello there! I really like your stuff and hope you can find time to complete my request. Anyway, the game is an action-based hacker simulation. To get a better understanding, I can give you a demo to play. However, the demo is still a few days from release. You can check my website (willgoss.com) for more information.

Genre: Electronic
Sub Genre: Orchestral
Mood: Very intense, mimicking computer computer sounds. (Not too many computer sounds though!)
Melody: I'll leave the key and time signature up to you, but I just want it to be a computer themed sort of song. Perhaps throw in some computer noises and whatnot.
Length: 3 minutes - Hope that does not ask too much.
Looping: Yes, a subtle loop would be excellent.

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#30 Evano

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 09:35 PM

@BlackLamb: Um... You could rename it if you want. Doesn't really matter to me as long as you credit me :P.

@whgoss: I'll do yours once I've finished with human after all :unsure:

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 11:56 PM

Huh um....Here is a very sad attempt on a blues sort of a song. I think I acheived the orchestral and the electronica side though ::lmao:: :
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For some strange reason, this song started off good then all of a sudden I gave it a cletic feel to it for no apparent reason what so ever... Anyways as you can see I'm not a big fan of blues music so maybe you can reply stating what i could change etc or give me an example of a song so I can get the feel of the beat that a blues song would sound like.

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 10:38 PM

Crackers Hackers. There ya go whgoss. Enjoy :P

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:02 AM

Excellent! I'll PM you a link to the demo when it's released tonight. Keep up the great work.
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#34 Marius Derekus

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 05:38 AM

http://www.nch.com.au/switch

This will allow you to convert your file to almost anyhting you'de like, For example ogg. :D

You can also just open it with audacity and export it how you like it :P

BUT a wma wont work with audacity :P .
BUT that program can't do .MIDI, and that's want I need (and neither can Audacity). :D

do you know anything else that will work for .midi?


Hey, I am Marius Derekus NOT Marcus, whom is the one who posted here earlier. NCH's Switch can convert a .midi file to other formats, but you can't really convert another format to a .midi. There have been a few programs which have attempted it, but they always suck. So basically, if you want a song in a .midi file, you have to make it from scratch. I know, It sucks.

@evano

Man, I didn't realize that you had your own topic. I have seen you around quite a lot ( i think this the first time I've talked to you). Anyways, you right some pretty good music! I really mean it, I didn't realize music like this. Well, keep up the good work man.

Edited by Marius Derekus, 28 January 2009 - 05:57 AM.

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Hello. If you need music for a project of any sort, then contact me at marius.derekus@gmail.com or send me a private message and I will see if I can compose for your project. I am free and only require credit. If you would like to see some examples of my music, then go to www.myspace.com/cameronhayden

NOTE: I am moving my example page to http://www.reverbnat...m/cameronhayden but I am still uploading some songs.
Also, I will embed my ReverbNation playlist to my MySpace profile .

#35 Evano

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 06:08 AM

hey thanks :D. I haven't heard some of your songs though :P. I've heard your brothers though :P.

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 12:41 AM

Hi! Could you make me a song (named: 4 men army)

Genre: chorus(or piano in case you can't do chorus) first and then rock
Sub Genre: none
Mood: Fast, mad.
Melody: starts a little fast an then suddenly goes fast and mad
Length: from 4 to 5 min (3 min is alowed to, I'm just asking a favor, not trying to stress you)
looped: yes(this almost always is necesary)
What instruments etc: first the chorus, then electric guitar enters with the chorus at the background and maybe battery in the background to.
Tempo (speed of the song): Fast
More Information: This song is a song for a stage where you have to cross a whole army with just a 4 men army.

It could be useful if you could make it an mp3 version. Thanks. :lol:
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#37 ecrgclimb95

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 04:20 AM

Genre: Techno
Sub Genre: none
Mood: Fast Paced, but not angry. Happy fast techno...
Melody: Anything that works
Length: No specified time. just not too long
looped: yes
What instruments etc: Synths you know
Tempo (speed of the song): Fast
More Information: Looping, .mp3 if you can! Here is the link to the game if that helps
Roy and Gary
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As you can see the game already has music, but i don't feel it fits the game well enough. Also my composer stopped communicating with me. And your work sounds great so.... yeah. :lol:
Thanks much for whatever comes out!
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#38 Evano

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 11:28 PM

@Watulio: 4 Men Army. Hope that's mad enough for ya :lol:. Also when you said, chorus, I hope you mean choir >.>

@ ecrgclimb: Working on yours now, be sure to see your request in a day or so :P

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 02:03 AM

GARY!!!. Um here's your request ecrgclimb95. Enjoy :whistle:

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 03:26 AM

Hello I was wondering if you could make a theme song for my game, witch is also will be the theme song of a duo named Castavan and Chorro. Castavan is a wizard who was turned into a coat rack, along with his parrot who was turned into a dragon.

Genre: Strings
Sub Genre: Creepy
Mood: Slow, sorta creepy/mysterious
Melody: Anything you think will work
Length: around two minutes
Looped: no
What instruments: Strings
Tempo:Slow
More info: mp3 if possible

I have mostly everything I need to put together the game, I just need some final touches and extra modes. No this is not some gay copy off of pac man either, considering it has some what of a story. If you do good on this song, which I'm sure you will, I will come back to you for the rest of the music. Good Luck!!!
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#41 kadell

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 04:59 AM

I need some music for my Code Geass Game.

Genre: Rock
Sub Genre: None
Mood: Heroic
Melody: Just like This
Length: Around 1:39 seconds
Looped: no
What instruments: Anything that matches
Tempo: Medium (moderate)
More info: midi format. Exactly like This but in midi version.
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#42 Evano

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 05:07 AM

@LarsonCreativity: Working on yours now :whistle:.
@kadell: Umm.. Are you saying to compose this song in midi format? Or do you mean to make it have a similiar style but not exactly the same? Cause I can't do the 2nd one since I only compose original songs and I don't really like to compose for games that need songs that have to be exactly the same as what ever the person requested sorry :S.

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 03:51 PM

@LarsonCreativity: Working on yours now :D.
@kadell: Umm.. Are you saying to compose this song in midi format? Or do you mean to make it have a similiar style but not exactly the same? Cause I can't do the 2nd one since I only compose original songs and I don't really like to compose for games that need songs that have to be exactly the same as what ever the person requested sorry :S.


I meant exactly the same.
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#44 Vitex

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 09:19 PM

Can I get 2 songs:

Genre: techno
Sub Genre: none
Mood: quirky/light
Melody: what ever you want
Length: 2-3 min
looped: yes
Instruments: anything that works
Tempo (speed of the song):fast

Genre: instrumental
Sub Genre: none
Mood: quirky boss music
Melody: what ever you want
Length: 2-3 min
looped: yes
Instruments: anything that works
Tempo (speed of the song): fast

This is for a co-op puzzle game.
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#45 TheBlackLamb

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 12:10 AM

http://www.nch.com.au/switch

This will allow you to convert your file to almost anyhting you'de like, For example ogg. :D

You can also just open it with audacity and export it how you like it ^_^

BUT a wma wont work with audacity :D .
BUT that program can't do .MIDI, and that's want I need (and neither can Audacity). :(

do you know anything else that will work for .midi?


Hey, I am Marius Derekus NOT Marcus, whom is the one who posted here earlier. NCH's Switch can convert a .midi file to other formats, but you can't really convert another format to a .midi. There have been a few programs which have attempted it, but they always suck. So basically, if you want a song in a .midi file, you have to make it from scratch. I know, It sucks.

@evano

Man, I didn't realize that you had your own topic. I have seen you around quite a lot ( i think this the first time I've talked to you). Anyways, you right some pretty good music! I really mean it, I didn't realize music like this. Well, keep up the good work man.


dang, then I can't use the music (there's a fade out when the game ends, and anything other than .wav or .mid can't be modified from Gamemaker)
... :D
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......... :(
so Evano: sorry for wasting your time ;)
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#46 Evano

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Posted 04 February 2009 - 04:13 AM

Due to school work and exams etc blah blah blah, I will stop composing for some of your requests, those people are:
LarsonCreativity
Vitex

Also, I will personally pm some people telling them that I will stop working for them until I am less busy or occupied. Sorry for those who requested a song that they want me to compose. :D

Anyways, once I am less occupied with school work and everything, I'll probably start composing for requests etc again.

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Posted 04 February 2009 - 11:11 PM

Due to school work and exams etc blah blah blah, I will stop composing for some of your requests, those people are:
LarsonCreativity
Vitex

Also, I will personally pm some people telling them that I will stop working for them until I am less busy or occupied. Sorry for those who requested a song that they want me to compose. ^_^

Anyways, once I am less occupied with school work and everything, I'll probably start composing for requests etc again.


Ya gotta do what ya gotta do...besides i'm patient
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#48 Evano

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 10:19 PM

Bump for crazy long time services :) (until I got something trippy to do) O.o So have a requesty peeps :P

#49 spader555

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 12:35 AM

Can i get an adventure music with a forest like theme? It would be cool. Thanks if you can try
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#50 Evano

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 01:00 AM

Yep sure. Can you probably add more detail? Use the template that I've given at the start of the topic please so I can have more of an idea you're wanting. Thanks :wacko: