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post Sep 7 2008, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE (samscam @ Sep 7 2008, 10:29 PM) *
We are safe for now. The page that is loaded in the iframe, changes now and then. The page that is currently beeing loaded, results in a

404 Not Found
error. BUT Chrome will keep saying that the GMC is infected because the page still contains the iframe.

Just because it says there's a 404 error doesn't actually mean there's a 404 error.
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post Sep 7 2008, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE (uuf6429 @ Sep 7 2008, 05:35 PM) *
Edmunn - We know about that, that is what I found back when I and Hach reported the virus, except it was a different URL.
I have no idea where you got that info about the system32 thing. The virus can't magically apear into that folder unles:
-You gave permission to do that
-You are using Google's high security Chrome

spacerat - You are the idiot. IE is not the best but it is not what you're calling it.
You'de be a complete idiot comparing IE to Firefox. In IE you can always cancel running ActiveX or downloading programs. In firefox you can download extensions which spy on you disguised as a weatherbug or a super toolbar. Guess what, statistics show Firefox has a lot of malicious extensions then IE. Problems in IE are exploits. But consider this: if Firefox can't even filter bad extensions let alone fixing exploits.
Please, you've already showed us your highly intelligent comments, no need to show off your super skills in how web coding works.
As to your list of why people should choose firefox, here's a list of why you should shut up and leave people with their decissions:

1) IE supports a wide range of protocols which or only available in firefox with some badly built extensions. I would rather prefer to see a malformed site ratherthen none at all.
2) Try check memory and time in opening IE7 and FF3: IE7 loads in about 2 seconds, FF 6. IE used 7Mb on this page, FF uses 13Mb. Not nice, eh?
3) FF has a huge repertoire of extensions (which spy on you) and I expect Chrome will (not) have the same (Chrome as said on their site, will be a simplistic functional browser without addons of any type). All IE has is a bunch of crappy toolbars and some drive-by viruses (if you are stilling using IE 5.5, but it is a fact that most viruses in IE are cought due to user error/stupidity).


Actually, you are wrong on some counts, and even when you aren't completly wrong, you fail to notice the security lapses in IE. Yes, Firefox may have malicious extensions, but have you ever heard of things like Smiley Central, My Web Search, etc? All of these toolbars that people install without knowing also perform malicious activity. I wouldn't want a toolbar tracking what websites I go to, just so it can target pop up ads to what I have been viewing. You seem to forget that stuff like that is just as malicious as 'rouge' Firefox extensions (which I have never encountered in my three years of Firefox use). Oh, and you are prompted to install Firefox extensions, they don't just magically get added to your system. Secondly, if you are going to fret about memory, then go ahead. Just don't fret over 6MB, okay? You see, most people today have at least 512MB, and a few here and there don't make that much of a difference. Have you ever done tests to see how fast tabs open in each browser? Firefox will most likely conquer over IE. Finally, I would like to see the list of protocols (the exclusion of FTP, as you will read below, please) that IE supports over Firefox. Yes, I know you are going to say FTP. But do you actively use the FTP feature in IE? Have you ever noticed how folders randomly get dropped out of the upload process? Do you despise the lack of information given by the IE FTP interface? Exactly. Yes, it may have FTP, but it is just as poor as the FTP extension for Firefox. If you use FTP even occasionally, you need to download a full fledged FTP client like FileZilla.
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post Sep 7 2008, 09:45 PM
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Not all free anti-viruses are bad. I use threat fire and it seems to get the job done. Gives me a list of some of the most wide spread known viruses' trogans and such around the world. And if it sees something that is suspicious it immediately ask me if i want to kill it or let it pass....
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uuf6429
post Sep 7 2008, 10:02 PM
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Actually, you are wrong on some counts, and even when you aren't completly wrong, you fail to notice the security lapses in IE. Yes, Firefox may have malicious extensions, but have you ever heard of things like Smiley Central, My Web Search, etc? All of these toolbars that people install without knowing also perform malicious activity. I wouldn't want a toolbar tracking what websites I go to, just so it can target pop up ads to what I have been viewing. You seem to forget that stuff like that is just as malicious as 'rouge' Firefox extensions (which I have never encountered in my three years of Firefox use). Oh, and you are prompted to install Firefox extensions, they don't just magically get added to your system.
Personally, Firefox has a good way in plugins. There are many more usefull plugins in firefox. But there are two things which you err on:
-Plugins both in IE and FF can only be installed after the user accepts them ALWAYS. Some plugins in IE can be installed after a downloaded package. You know like Adobe's software asking you to install google toolbar. This happens a lot in IE but hasn't much of a foothold in FF.
-I've been developing plugins for both browsers, and can say that FF plugins leave more control to the programmer rather the IE which has a limiting sandbox (consider how easily plugins for firefox can be done rather then in IE) of course in this case, more control=more dangerous.

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Secondly, if you are going to fret about memory, then go ahead. Just don't fret over 6MB, okay? You see, most people today have at least 512MB, and a few here and there don't make that much of a difference. Have you ever done tests to see how fast tabs open in each browser?
With 2Gb of RAM here, I can't complain in fact I don't. But people don't get things right. Some people claimed the firefox can be run on a 16Mb 500Mhz system. By far, only IE6 could ever do that.
As to tabs, with automatic switching I find them faster in IE7 then FF3.
What really pisses me off is startup speed, which you forget to comment about wink1.gif .

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Firefox will most likely conquer over IE. Finally, I would like to see the list of protocols (the exclusion of FTP, as you will read below, please) that IE supports over Firefox. Yes, I know you are going to say FTP. But do you actively use the FTP feature in IE? Have you ever noticed how folders randomly get dropped out of the upload process? Do you despise the lack of information given by the IE FTP interface? Exactly. Yes, it may have FTP, but it is just as poor as the FTP extension for Firefox.
By far, I prefer IE's ftp, but rather then FTP it has a support for a wide range of components especially available for intranet control. I found them very easy to work with. FF doesn't support anything similar, not even with plugins.
I'm not sure about that. Can't say IE is good, but my point here ain't who's conquering who, but rather who's forcing who. Whenever I install a new XP OS the first I do is updating. And guess with what? IE, because firefox ain't there. I simply prefer having IE preinstalled then having to play around with Firefox. For me, firefox is a good development aid. I've been in website design for a couple of years now. I've been actually working in this industry, and the good people I've met with doesn't fret about these sort of things.

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If you use FTP even occasionally, you need to download a full fledged FTP client like FileZilla.
For widespread use, I use that smile.gif . But in emergencies, I use a Dos prompt or IE. Some people term that as a life saver; it is tongue.gif .

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post Sep 7 2008, 10:06 PM
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Gees, people, settle down. Okay, we get the point. There's malware. No-one can do anything about it till an administrator is around. My original topic was intended for notification, not discussion.

The best solution is to block the site if you're in IE. FF3 and Chrome users don't have to worry about the threat.

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post Sep 7 2008, 10:10 PM
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Yeah, Chrome users have something else to worry about tongue.gif. Haha XD
I wouldn't have started this discussion if some people wouldn't have started to force us to muve to firefox because of this. Now now, they are quite good at taking the situation at hand, do they? tongue.gif

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post Sep 7 2008, 10:19 PM
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post Sep 7 2008, 10:22 PM
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Oh congratulations, you found something we already know about. Here, have a cookie. sleep.gif

Maybe people didn't get the intention of my post here, which is that the malware is not going to magically disappear if people post enough. Nope, it's going to stay there until an administrator removes it.

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Gees, people, settle down. Okay, we get the point. There's malware. No-one can do anything about it till an administrator is around. My original topic was intended for notification, not discussion.

The best solution is to block the site if you're in IE. FF3 and Chrome users don't have to worry about the threat.
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post Sep 7 2008, 10:53 PM
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i don't know if this was said already but my avast! was picking something up earlier today then that stopped and i've been using this site since this morning and nothing has happened until now when this message supposedly from google was saying this is a reported attack site and when ever i go to a new page i have go through this message and click ignore and it's really getting annoying, anyone else getting this message?
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post Sep 7 2008, 11:00 PM
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I got this too!
Now please explain:
Is this serious? Is there actually a virus or was it just a false accusation?
Also, when will it be fixed?
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Dr. Watz0n
post Sep 7 2008, 11:13 PM
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Firefox is now blacklisting the GMC (Firefox 3.0.1). Obviously you can ignore the warning, but it is quite potent.
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post Sep 7 2008, 11:18 PM
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A note to those who are getting the "Suspected attack site" message using Firefox: If you don't want to see that message, go to Tools>Options>security and uncheck the relevant box. However, should you end up visiting an actual attack site, you won't know it until your virus scanner detects it/ you re-check the box.
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post Sep 7 2008, 11:21 PM
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I use Nod32 Antivirus, with the latest definition database, and I use FF3 Portable, and have not received any message as of yet. To be sure, though, I pulled a full system scan. I have but a single virus.
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post Sep 7 2008, 11:21 PM
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Strangely, AVG has been popping up when i'm on the forum. not every time i change page, just once in a while.
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post Sep 7 2008, 11:31 PM
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Yeah, it was fine earlier when I was using the GMC and reading this thread, but now Firefox seems to have backlisted it. :/
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post Sep 8 2008, 12:03 AM
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I want Yo-yo games to take action for once on this forum instead having their incompetent Mods deal with it and when they deal with it they just delete the post. Yo-yo games need to take action and stop relying on incompetent Mods to handle stuff cause all they do is delete any post and say post about it in Yo-yo games web site.

That doesn't work either so yo-yo games need to take action and stop letting incompetent Mods handle stuff they can't

They need to get this fixed and stop relying on their mods to handle stuff like this.
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post Sep 8 2008, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE (Camman @ Sep 8 2008, 12:31 AM) *
Yeah, it was fine earlier when I was using the GMC and reading this thread, but now Firefox seems to have backlisted it. :/



It does it cause somebody has reported that yo-yo games is a malicious site and it is yo-yo games job to clear the matter. Not use to find out why somebody reported it as a malicious site
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post Sep 8 2008, 12:14 AM
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I'm glad I use the Opera browser, I haven't had any of these problems, you should all consider switching to it.
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post Sep 8 2008, 12:21 AM
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I've never gotten any warnings. I use 5 browsers.
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post Sep 8 2008, 12:24 AM
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arghh this is so annoying.
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