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#1 Speedmaster

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 06:49 PM

Looks like EA have gotten bored with the Sims 2, and life.

http://thesims3.ea.com/screens.php

I have to say, from the screenshot, it looks no better than Sims 2, except more suburban and cheesy than ever.

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Talk about 'Shiny Happy People'!

Of course, these means that the 60 expansion packs you brought for it are now going to become worthless as everyone rushes to sell them to make themselves money for the next game.

An then EA and Maxis will probably release the all new exciting expansion packs like:

-Sims 3 Pets (You get to look after animals like Slugs and Dogs with Cancer)
-Sims 3 Metropolis (Your house suddenly gets demolished by a highway being built)
-Sims 3 Death! (Fun ways to murder and torture your Sims)
-Sims 3 Afterlife (Your Sims then spend some time in Hell)
-Sims 3 Religious Cults (Your Sims can join Scientology)
-Sims 3 War (Join the army and wipe out other neighbourhoods using bioweapons)
-Sims 3 Caravans (Take care of those gypsies that have parked their caravans across the road)
-Sims 3 Vice City (Sex Career, ranging from Prostitutes to International Porn Stars - Still a 12+ game)
-Sims 3 San Andreas (Your Sims can join violent gangs and drive-by each other)
-Sims 3 THE POLES ARE COMING! (You are evicted out of your house and loose your sims jobs as they are taken over by eastern European immagrants, they will be able to work 10 times as hard, for 10 times less the price!)

It'll be 200 pounds well spent, I think!

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#2 masterofhisowndomain

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 04:06 PM

Looks like EA have gotten bored with the Sims 2, and life.

http://thesims3.ea.com/screens.php

I have to say, it looks no better than Sims 2, except more suburban and cheesy than ever.


I could have quoted your entire post if I was looking for a stupid statement, but this is perhaps the most stupid.

Here are just some of the things that are planned to be different in the Sims 3..:

Neighborhood:
- Seamless Nhood: Your Sim can visit neighbors, parks and shops without a loading screen.
- All the neighboring Sims will live their life and age simultaniously as your Sim (They'll get married, get jobs,etc).
- The game will ship with 1 Neighborhood.
- Several weeks after the launch, there will be a tool available to create your own Nhoods.
- That Nhood will consist of about 97 different lots.
- When the game is out, you can download towns, made by other people.
- All buildings in the Nhood can be interacted with, so no prop buildings.
- Confirmed community places are: Pool, Park, Bistro, Clothing store, City Hall and Bookstore.
- The Nhood can expand by users and/or by expansionpacks.
- You can zoom out to see the whole Nhood at once or zoom in to a single Sim.

Sims:
- Personality sliders are reduced from 8 to 3, one being a Fun to Stress meter. Bladder, Hygiene, etc. are still there but hidden.
- Sims 3 have Traits. Choose 5 from around 80 types like Dreamer, Evil, Playful, etc. These Traits will affect how a Sim behaves towards others and affects their moods, like the mood of an Outdoorsperson will raise when he/she is outside. An evil Sim may slap another Sim.
- Traits could be passed down, and actions a Sim does during her pregnancy will affect the traits of her offspring.
- Moodlets instead of a moodbar. If something happens like a marriage, the Sim gets a moodlet. These moodlets will affect your Sims' mood and give abilities like learning faster. An example: Getting fired will get you a long lasting, big impact moodlet, while going to a small party will get them a short, non-dramatic moodlet.
- They will look after themselves better.
- Sims have certain skills like cooking or fishing.
- You can fulfil needs by simply clicking on an icon.
- Instead of fixed interaction (like Talk or Joke), the options are filtered on your current Mood or your Traits.
- Sims can aquire Dreams. Like if your Sim sees that a Neigbor has a big tv, your Sim can get a Dream to want one too. You decide then, to turn it into a Promise. Ignoring a Dream is ok, but ignoring a Promise gives you negative repercussions.

Careers/Jobs:
- You can follow your Sim in its car to work. You won't see your Sim working though; He/She will disapear in the building.
- Advancing in career is changed as it depends on skills, personality, relationship with colleagues/boss and even certain goals that has to be fulfilled. For example taking work home.
- Confirmed careers are Chef, Science and Military.
- Sims can take part-time jobs.

CAS:
- Body can be shaped as faces were in Sims 2.
- There are sliders for weight and fitness.
- Arm and legs are seperate so you can have a fat body and thin arms.
- Sims you created fat, can become thin by exersizing, thin created people get fat by eating a lot.
- You can choose specific Asian and African models.
- You can choose a Sims' favorite color, music type, food, etc.
- Shoes are seperate and can also choose barefoot.
- Clothes are customizable from CAS; Change the color of a certain piece of clothes or use your own patterns.

Misc
- Sims can cook and fish. Buy groceries or grow the food yourself.
- The game has been made so that will also run smoothly on older PC's.
- Clothes, furniture and homes can be customized.
- You can use your own patterns/colours and then apply it to anything through a drag-and-drop interface.
- The game will have modding tools built into it.
- There's no online multiplayer
- You can pick up items (garbage, books,etc) yourself with a Hand cursor.
- Wind will move the trees.
- Paintings that a Sim makes, will be unique to each Sim. It's based on its personality and mood.


Although I dislike EA's stagnant, sell more expansion packs approach, I do think that many of them have added new and interesting features, and I agree with someone from EA when they said that sometimes they just can't fit everything into the original that people want.

Your post is nothing more than a mindless rant at EA and the Sims.. or a poor attempt at one. ^_^
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#3 Speedmaster

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 06:09 PM

All those features you listed are very trivial.

Who would buy a game so that they can see the wind move the trees?

I guess I am ranting, but I just hate the format and the pointlessness of each Sims release. I wouldn't mind if they decided what to put on one disk, and kept it that way. For at least a few years.

It's all a way to grab money off consumers.
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#4 GStick

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 06:20 PM

Some of the new building features are probably the best the game has. 45 degree angles and smaller grid squares were needed from the start.

Some other new features really just turn me away though. My other Sims lives just continue even when I'm not playing them? Thats probably one of the worst. If I make multiple Sims its because I actually want to play as multiple Sims.

Sims 1 (at least for PS2, only one I really have) is far better than Sims 2, in control, style and presentation. All of the versions of Sims 2 just don't feel, sound, or look like Sims to me. My sister is behind me playing Sims 2 Pets at this very moment, and I can tell you it annoys me to no end.

The game needs that laid back feel, and it needs to actually be a real game. With each new version its becoming a mini-Spore, whereas before it was more of a puzzle/strategy game. I LIKE having to rush around non-stop hoping my Sim doesn't pee his pants. The only thing that needed to be done to fix the problem of not keeping up and not being able to do anything else is slow down the time. Thats it.
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#5 Speedmaster

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 07:15 PM

The worst element of Sims gameplay I find is that you spend 10 hours building your perfect house, only to spend 5 minutes actually playing it when you get bored.
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Posted 10 June 2008 - 07:30 PM

I guess I am ranting, but I just hate the format and the pointlessness of each Sims release. I wouldn't mind if they decided what to put on one disk, and kept it that way. For at least a few years.


If you want to make your voice heard about that you could join the EA UK Community, which are looking for people's opinions on what they'd like to see in, and out, of the game. :D

Some other new features really just turn me away though. My other Sims lives just continue even when I'm not playing them? Thats probably one of the worst. If I make multiple Sims its because I actually want to play as multiple Sims.


I'm sure they've thought about this feature; I don't think you'll come back after a few hours of playing another family to find your others dead in the ground..
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Posted 10 June 2008 - 09:45 PM

But they claim they can. Also that they can get married, relationships with other Sims can change, all that. At least thats what I've seen and read.
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#8 firelilee

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 10:31 PM

I would never knock the sims EVER.

One day I can only dream to have a simplistic idea (such as the SIMS) turn into a popular phenomenon.

Madness, its madness I say!!!
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#9 Rick_Slick

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 02:38 AM

It's all a way to grab money off consumers.


Those nasty corporations trying to turn a profit! Shame on them!!
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#10 disturbed317

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 04:34 AM

It's all a way to grab money off consumers.


Those nasty corporations trying to turn a profit! Shame on them!!


How could they! Lol, also I'm guessing Speedmaster hates the Wii, since it does the exact same thing.

On another note, I never played the Sims much (never even played the Sims 2) but what I have played was good, and the 3rd one looks pretty interesting.
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#11 Taxa

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 04:58 AM

I'm not a fan of the Sims. I don't like the idea of making another character live, getting them educated, jobs, social life, when I have all of that to work on in real life.
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#12 Speedmaster

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 07:34 AM

I'm not a fan of the Sims. I don't like the idea of making another character live, getting them educated, jobs, social life, when I have all of that to work on in real life.


Good Point,

And yeah - I also hate the Wii.

It also releases addons like Wii Tennis Rackets, Wii Golf Clubs, Wii Mats, Wii whatever.

When people could just play - Real Life and have free fun with that instead.
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 12:48 PM

I'm not a fan of the Sims. I don't like the idea of making another character live, getting them educated, jobs, social life, when I have all of that to work on in real life.


Good Point,

And yeah - I also hate the Wii.

It also releases addons like Wii Tennis Rackets, Wii Golf Clubs, Wii Mats, Wii whatever.

When people could just play - Real Life and have free fun with that instead.


But real life is boring where as video games make life more interesting. For example, Wii Bowling is fun because not everyone can have an ACTUAL bowling alley in their house. You can get points to strive for though WiiSports isn't a great example of this.

But with your theory, instead of becoming a mobster and killing people in GTA, lets do it in REAL LIFE. That would be great fun!
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 01:38 PM

But with your theory, instead of becoming a mobster and killing people in GTA, lets do it in REAL LIFE. That would be great fun!


He's more pointing out the fact that the Wii and its peripherals are a huge gimmick. GTA is just really good game design. Most of the games on the Wii are an excuse to buy out all the same people who constantly tell you Guitar Hero is the best game ever made.

The Sims is an open-ended simulation, but its not this big sandbox game they're trying to make it become. At least the original concept wasn't, it was actually a game. Leave the sandbox concepts to Spore. Though I have no problems with The Sims as a whole, like Speedmaster seems to. Its just heading in the wrong direction. Much like Mortal Kombat did years ago. And Sonic.
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#15 Speedmaster

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 02:53 PM

But with your theory, instead of becoming a mobster and killing people in GTA, lets do it in REAL LIFE. That would be great fun!


He's more pointing out the fact that the Wii and its peripherals are a huge gimmick. GTA is just really good game design. Most of the games on the Wii are an excuse to buy out all the same people who constantly tell you Guitar Hero is the best game ever made.

The Sims is an open-ended simulation, but its not this big sandbox game they're trying to make it become. At least the original concept wasn't, it was actually a game. Leave the sandbox concepts to Spore. Though I have no problems with The Sims as a whole, like Speedmaster seems to. Its just heading in the wrong direction. Much like Mortal Kombat did years ago. And Sonic.



THANK YOU!

I agree with everything this guy has just said.

I also never had a problem with the Sims 1, It deserved to be the 'Number 1 PC Game of All Time' for it's sheer ingenuity and for it's fun.

The other games, well....There's just something wrong with them I can't explain. I'm probably just being a whiny old bat.
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Posted 15 June 2008 - 01:29 PM

Looks like EA have gotten bored with the Sims 2, and life.
- Body can be shaped as faces were in Sims 2.
- There are sliders for weight and fitness.
- Arm and legs are seperate so you can have a fat body and thin arms.
- Sims you created fat, can become thin by exersizing, thin created people get fat by eating a lot.
- You can choose specific Asian and African models.
- You can choose a Sims' favorite color, music type, food, etc.
- Shoes are seperate and can also choose barefoot.
- Clothes are customizable from CAS; Change the color of a certain piece of clothes or use your own patterns.

Did they really need three versions of this game to find out that these ideas make character creation more realistic? I have always found Sims 1 to be severely lacking these features. (I never had Sims 2). Really, Test Drive Unlimited has more clothing options than the Sims 1, and that's a racing game! Also, I think that character creation should allow for character recreation (the creation of Sim-counterparts of real people).

Also, in fact Sims 3 is not a new game, it is an expansion of the Sims concept. And I really hate those expansion packs. Just sell a whole game, I am not going to pay money for something that is not complete.

Of course, there are people who will buy the stuff, but I won't be one of them. Although the concept is nice, they're now really going on too long with this ...

Edited by Erik Leppen, 15 June 2008 - 01:33 PM.

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 09:23 PM

(I never had Sims 2). Really, Test Drive Unlimited has more clothing options than the Sims 1, and that's a racing game! Also, I think that character creation should allow for character recreation (the creation of Sim-counterparts of real people).

Also, in fact Sims 3 is not a new game, it is an expansion of the Sims concept. And I really hate those expansion packs. Just sell a whole game, I am not going to pay money for something that is not complete.


Honestly have you seen the amount of clothing options for The Sims 2? Heck you could spend a year on downloading more if you wanted to, just look at any one of the hundreds of fan sites.

Those expansions packs are simply add-ons which expand the universe of The Sims. If they annoy you so much just don't buy them, they are entirely optional.. ^_^
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