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[emjeeman]

People know IGN reviews are not a good thing.
IGN has garnered a bad rep due to their "reviews".

[FamousJellyfish]

I love the absurd ignorance in Emjeeman's posts. Charmeleon wasn't trolling when he spoke lowly of this game. I'm sorry, if you think his opinions of this "game" are low, you'd be in for a shock if you bothered to read the rest of this topic. I consider Execution to be experimental garbage.

Listen, some of us come to the GMC Creations subforum to... you know, play games. Execution has no "play". To re-iterate, here are some of its worst flaws.

1. It has enough quality to seem like it was made in an hour, but 2dCube's popularity got it over 200 replies. The audiovisual quality is non-existent. It brought down other games which were genuine and had effort put into them.

2. It tries to explore the concept of permanent death, even though games such as Roguelikes have been doing this for over three decades. The result is that Execution feels "late to the party", as if it has no new message. The true art games are ones that showcase this medium's real point : playability. Without any gameplay or fun, Execution is just a joke. The few people who found it to be an interesting artistic message are those who did not understand the point of Roguelikes.

3. Writes to the registry, as if a notepad file or something similar was too un-artistic or boring for the indulgent developer 2dCube. A permanent reminder that you've played this pathetic excuse for a "Strategy" creation.

Other people in this thread and the parody Extermination thread have described it as "meaningless", "pretentious", "saddening". I think those are understatements. I literally find this game to be offensive. You're lucky that it didn't spawn more clones than just Extermination. Do you know what would have happened? A repeat of Stop at 500... they would all get locked. It's really sad when I can say that even Stop at 500 had more "game" than Execution. It had a goal, a purpose, an actual gameplay objective. Execution falls short of having anything like that. It's not a game. It's a waste of space, both on this forum, and on everyone's hard drive and registry.

I don't care that you're whining about some other member. Charmeleon doesn't come here anymore, and he's only posted once this month. You bumped an untouched topic after 2 months to complain about a pretty good review. A lot of people mirrored his criticisms, but you'll only know that when you decide to read more than the last page. FYI, I've seen all of Charmeleon's reviews. Some are pretty positive, and others are silly (like when he's talking about getting fanmail constantly). I don't think he was a troll.

If you want to discuss Execution, then do so. You can start by countering my points above. And no, calling me a "troll" or whatever will not devalue what I've said.

[emjeeman]

Oh, look! Another troll!

Please, famousjellyfish, take your hatred garbage elsewhere. You're not welcome in this thread and your presence in general is not welcome. There's the exit door over there, don't let it close on you on your way out. Please go ruin someone else's thread and other people's lives.

[Fihrilkamal]

FamousJellyfish, You're right, I think this game concept is awesome because I've never played those roguelikes before
Anyway, I think Killing that guy is the point of this game. Since this game title is Execution.

[Nocturne]

Emjeeman, the only Troll I see in this thread is you. You have a massive chip on your shoulder and should deal with it rather than go around shouting "TROLL" at everone who happens to say a game is bad. I'll let you into a little secret... NOT ALL GAMES ARE GOOD.

Now, this may come as a surprise to you as it seems you can't see the bad in anything, but it's true... And since we are sharing confidences, I'll let you in on another little secret... IT'S ALRIGHT TO SAY THEY ARE BAD. It's called "having an opinion" and it's a perfectly reasonable thing to have.

So, what happens when you think a game is bad and you want to voice that opinion? Well, you go on a PUBLIC forum where giving your opinion is QUITE ALL RIGHT and you tell people what you thought. There! No big deal!

Now, why don't you show some respect to these people and let them voice their opinions without calling them trolls? You can even say you think they are wrong as that, too, is a perfectly valid opinion and the basis for a good discussion (for an example of how this should be done right, please see the post by FamousJellyFish, above, who eloquently argues his points).

[orange08]

Oh, look! Another troll!

Please, famousjellyfish, take your hatred garbage elsewhere. You're not welcome in this thread and your presence in general is not welcome. There's the exit door over there, don't let it close on you on your way out. Please go ruin someone else's thread and other people's lives.

Oh, look! Another troll!

Please, emjeeman, take your hatred garbage elsewhere. You're not welcome in this thread and your presence in general is not welcome. There's the exit door over there, don't let it close on you on your way out. Please go ruin someone else's thread and other people's lives.


:3
In all seriousness, I have to agree with Charmeleon and FamousJellyfish(you too, Nocturne <3). Execution, if you step back and look at it, really doesn't have any of the elements of a normal "game". But I don't need to elaborate any further than Jellyfish has in his post above.

-orange

[Fihrilkamal]

In fact, the only game better than this is Maggot in Fraying Pan.

[FamousJellyfish]

Oh, look! Another troll!

Alas and alack, I am scuttled... you've found me out! All along, I thought my true behavior was appropriately disguised as that of someone who just wanted to post on a community forum. But now you realize my villainous bridge-dwelling motives! Is this the end of FamousJellyfish...?

Hey, you want to talk about trolls? I can sing that song too.

Here are some highlights from what I call the "Emjeeman Chronicles" :

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Anyway, I think this game is super cool and definitely a great Contra game. Keep up the good work and try to work on the jump. Also, some enemies are overpowered and movement is slippery (as opposed to how Contra controls) like how Mario does. This wouldn't be too bad if it wasn't for the level design style, which is better suited for the precision-style of Contra.

Also, please don't add autofire. Contra is not about letting the game shoot for you. If you mean rapid fire (like Contra III, etc), that's already in the game.

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You guys should stop wasting your time with this sore loser; he's done nothing but troll and make himself a jerk in other topics, too. All the games he gave a bad review, he's mentioning them as "awful creations" in his other reviews.

So far I figured out how to move from menu to menu.... No other key work.

You could have a pot of gold in there and no one would even know.

What the hell does that even mean? Did you even try to work the controls yourself for more than 5 seconds before giving up? It's not even that hard to figure out. Try to get something called patience. This pot of gold is obscured from people like you because of the ignorance.

Who cares? All the YYG games that Softpedia stole are pretty bad anyway. I really found all of them to be awful, not more than 2 stars (out of five) in my book.

Truly, you are a shining example of GMC membership quality. I doubt that myself or Charmeleon can compare! Oh ho ho, wait...

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http://gmc.yoyogames...dpost&p=3915336

http://gmc.yoyogames.com/index.php?showtopic=532464&view=findpost&p=3912091

http://gmc.yoyogames.com/index.php?showtopic=527791&view=findpost&p=3930530

There seems to be a bit of a disconnect here.

Please, famousjellyfish, take your hatred garbage elsewhere. You're not welcome in this thread and your presence in general is not welcome.

I'm afraid you don't have the authority to make that determination, on both counts. First of all, you don't know what I hate. You made the same assumption when you talked about Nocturne being "mad at you" earlier. You are not a mind reader. It's a bit presumptuous for you to believe that you can tell me what I'm thinking or how I feel about something. Also, I simply can't agree that I'm unwelcome. Maybe if you could back up that claim...

FamousJellyfish, You're right, I think this game concept is awesome because I've never played those roguelikes before
Anyway, I think Killing that guy is the point of this game. Since this game title is Execution.

Well, yeah. If you take one part of my statement without responding to the rest of it, the response is bound to look silly.

Also, I don't think you understand. Point in this context refers to an essential idea or goal. Don't get the word point confused with the objective in the program itself, i.e. to exit and win or to shoot the man.

Execution does not have a point. 2dCube stated in this topic that it was made because he got an idea for a game that you can only play once, where a "game over" is permanent. ( http://gmc.yoyogames...dpost&p=2687772 , http://gmc.yoyogames...dpost&p=2688971 )

That was the entire reasoning behind Charmeleon's review, and a major part of my earlier post. The concept of permadeath has already existed and been done properly. 2dCube's idea to slightly twist it into being unable to play the game itself twice, is not original or meaningful. The mechanical idea itself also loses all potential value when coupled with such an empty game as Execution. It becomes contrived and a waste of time.

Since 2dCube also stated that shooting the man is not winning, you're wrong to assume that the point is to shoot the man. ( http://gmc.yoyogames...dpost&p=2686846 )

Execution suffers from having no purpose. I am torn between whether or not to call it a game, since it is so devoid of actual play value. Even if I thought it held value as an artistic piece (which I don't, since it was clearly made in one hour), I don't think it's qualified to be respected as an actual game. That is why I said it offends me. It gained 200 posts when 2dCube was popular on these forums, and other topics suffered from its constant bumping. I believe Emjeeman would call that... "disruptive posting".

There's the exit door over there, don't let it close on you on your way out. Please go ruin someone else's thread and other people's lives.

OK, see ya.

[Fihrilkamal]

Sorry, if my words sounds confusing, English isn't my primary language, point.. and objective that's confusing...
Thanks for explaining, FamousJellyfish.

[Charmeleon]

I'll let you into a little secret... NOT ALL GAMES ARE GOOD.

looks like Nocturne has been brushing up on his GMC history. http://gmc.yoyogames...dpost&p=3592411

[makerofthegames]

FamousJellyfish, I'm disappointed in you. A reference to Stop at 500 but not Drink Tea or Die? Really? Come on.
I give your post a 2/5.

(lol)

Anywho FJf is obviously not a troll, and I don't think Charmeleon is one either, although I don't really agree with him on many of his opinions on games here.

Edited by makerofthegames, 16 May 2012 - 03:47 AM.

[GMLTechie]

Ha cool, I read all the replies before actually playing and was like how do i win hmm... Then none of the posts told me how so i loaded up the game looked through that scope and saw that man...

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I started into his pathetic eyes, But right before i was about to pull that trigger i decided i wasn't a monster so i pressed that ESC button and there it was...THE WINNING SCREEN!

[human_aft3r_all]

The message is there, but I really wish it was more ambiguous and not so heavy handed. I mean, obviously I will win if I don't kill him. But wouldn't it be interesting if it was an ethics problem, like he is a haneous war criminal and if I don't kill him, he will kill more people? or at least if there wasn't simply immediate validation of a simple decision. It wouldn't have taken much for it to be a lot more poignant with marginally more interface.